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While I pretty much agree that there is no way to really kill an animal or a human without some level of cruelty, I am still ok with both in certain circumstances.
What is "cruelty-free"? In the end it is really just more marketing hype and has little to do with the animals. Someone would come up with "spa-pampered" meat if they thought it would make more money.
Coming from someone who would has joyfully proclaimed his willingness to commit murder in the past, JonMarc, your response has no pretensions to authenticity.
Nah, that's not really that cruel, unless their legs hurt from not being able to walk around. I think hurting them is what's cruel. Cages aren't very cruel. It's not like the animals are thinking, "damn, I could have made something of my life if I weren't in this cage!"
Yes, it is really cruel. Sensory deprivation, and what psychology calls an 'impoverished environment' actually harm brain development, making them stupid--people, too.
The body is designed to do certain things, including moving about, learning, having new experiences, responding to stimuli, etc. When that doesn't happen, it causes anxiety, depression, and a host of other ills.
You can argue all you want that animals aren't capable of these states, but their brains secrete the same neurotransmitters and other chemicals that ours do. Their inability to speak does not mean they are insensitive to pain, nor do their smaller brains.
Up until the mid 1970s, surgery on infants was routinely done without anesthesia, on the grounds that their brains were insufficiently developed to feel pain--the same argument used in allowing animals to be tortured. It is wrong when applied to infants, and wrong when applied to animals.
I would (and I would even pay more), but I don't think there is such a thing.
I thought of this question after watching this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ--faib7to&fmt=18 (GRAPHIC)
There is no such thing.
If the only meat you eat is "cruelty-free", then you are a vegatarian.
If you cannot kill an animal in cruelty-free manner, you cannot kill a human in a cruelty-free manner, either.
Just noting a fact.
While I pretty much agree that there is no way to really kill an animal or a human without some level of cruelty, I am still ok with both in certain circumstances.
LOL, I'll show you a cruelty free way.
http://www.break.com/index/chicken-slaughtering-trick-fails-horribly.html
FATALITY! It says "fails horribly" but its head pops right off so I don't see how that's a failure.
What is "cruelty-free"? In the end it is really just more marketing hype and has little to do with the animals. Someone would come up with "spa-pampered" meat if they thought it would make more money.
Have you ever heard of Kobe beef?
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[0 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyComing from someone who would has joyfully proclaimed his willingness to commit murder in the past, JonMarc, your response has no pretensions to authenticity.
Nah, that's not really that cruel, unless their legs hurt from not being able to walk around. I think hurting them is what's cruel. Cages aren't very cruel. It's not like the animals are thinking, "damn, I could have made something of my life if I weren't in this cage!"
Yes, it is really cruel. Sensory deprivation, and what psychology calls an 'impoverished environment' actually harm brain development, making them stupid--people, too.
The body is designed to do certain things, including moving about, learning, having new experiences, responding to stimuli, etc. When that doesn't happen, it causes anxiety, depression, and a host of other ills.
You can argue all you want that animals aren't capable of these states, but their brains secrete the same neurotransmitters and other chemicals that ours do. Their inability to speak does not mean they are insensitive to pain, nor do their smaller brains.
Up until the mid 1970s, surgery on infants was routinely done without anesthesia, on the grounds that their brains were insufficiently developed to feel pain--the same argument used in allowing animals to be tortured. It is wrong when applied to infants, and wrong when applied to animals.
Yeah, it would be cruel, but I am saying that the animals don't have a consciousness. Therefor, they don't know it's cruel.
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[0 points] 2 years ago byAre we going to have a panel of animals vote on what cruelty-free means? :)
Agree Chip!!!!!!!
http://www.wikio.com/video/1599943