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[5 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyNone!
I think the difference is some people have been vocal about saying a black man has been elected to the Oval Office, not really acknowledging he is actually bi-racial. He is as much white as he is black when you get down to it, which doesn't matter to me, I know he is bi-racial and have no problem with that, but don't want to hear only about his only being black, nor would I want to hear only about his only being white.
This country is funny how a person can be half black, yet only considered black by some, I don't think that is the case in other countries. Funny thing too is I have heard among blacks there is tension between lighter and darker skinned blacks to this day, I think that might come from when there was slavery in this country and lighter skinned blacks might work in the house, and darker skinned blacks didn't get that chance. Also some slave owners raped their lighter skinned slaves, very disturbing, the attitude that they owned them and they were beneath them, yet somehow they were not above having sex with them. Slavery is not something I can really ever understand.
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user Reply> I disagree. He is black, even if it's half.
Well, we can agree to disagree on that point, I see him as bi-racial. Just as I see myself as half Slavic and half Spanish and I never see myself as more of one or the other, even though looking at me no one would see me as Spanish I suspect, I clearly look more Slavic.
>Why would you wonder about that? Does it somehow make him "less" black? Does it somehow make his election to office less historic? Man, I don't get that.
I never said I saw him as less black, I am trying to say the public should not deny his white side either, that is my point, is there shame in that, should it be shameful for him to be white as well? Does the fact that he is also half white diminish the historical nature?
> Acknowledging that is not in any way a denial of his white ancestry. It is the black ancestry that is historic here, and I think it's pretty clear that's what people are talking about.
I see your point, and know that is what people are referring to and see the historical ramifications. Semantics aside, there is still a racial heritage aspect to this no matter what, and that is how I look at it, you can't deny any part of your heritage even if you wanted to, and that goes beyond semantics.
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user Reply> By acknowledging that Obama is black, no one is suggesting that he is 'more' black than white, either. In exactly the same way that you see yourself, as you describe.
I hope no one would be suggesting that, I would hope people can have pride in all of their heritage and ancestry, just as I do. I would be pretty vocal to correct someone who might see me as only Slavic or only Spanish. I am a little yellow rice and potato girl and proud of it. As Obama supporters should be that a bi-racial man has won the election and be proud of who he is completely, not focus on one side or the other.
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyAh yes, Jonmarc, I know Waugs loves to disagree with me point by point, and usually say he doesn't care what I think or say. I guess I am just a glutton for the punishment of banging my head against the proverbial wall, although he was pretty tame this time with me I thought, no name calling or foul language at least.
And yes, the whole hyphenated American thing, it is a bit out of control, I do agree there, particularly if your family has been here in the United States for multiple generations, your family hasn't lived on foreign soil for x number of years, you are pretty much an American now. People who moved here from another country, ah, might have a little more leeway with the whole hyphenated American thing, but not really. I absolutely see myself as a plain old American girl, I joke how I am a rice and potato girl because of where my family came from. Look at this country, first came the English, French, Spanish, then a wave a Italians, Irish, Chinese, etc. Where else can you order Italian food, Mexican food, etc. that isn't really truly food like you find it from the motherland, it has an Americanized style. I love it, an American it seems can be anyone. The squabbling nationalities is silly, I grant you that, I am not hyphenated anything. My parents never called themselves hyphenated Americans ever, they are very Americanized, leaned English first thing, but they are never deny they are weren't born here, and I don't really think would ever consider returning to the home country, so they in the end they are Americans. Of course, you can get in to the whole naturalized citizen thing or natural born, although another head spinning debate might ensue.
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyWhy thank you, I took a little break and I guess I am back with a vengeance, at least trying anyway :0)
BTW, love that you quote TR, he is a president that I always found very interesting. Remember to "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far."
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[3 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyAgreed!
So what?
Who cares? As long as he does his job, it doesn't make any difference what colour his skin is.
I agree with you.
How about, "He's human"?
I remember seeing a film at one point in which a woman with white-looking skin was arrested in the pre-civil rights south for posing as white. Someone said in this film that anyone who has a drop of black blood in their veins is still black, no matter what they look like. I was pretty young at the time, and I remember thinking that this was a pretty alien perspective from the world I lived in.
I think it was _Showboat_.
I am sick of Obama being called the first black president, it's just laziness.
I think he is the first president, decendant from an African Father and an American Mother.
He is a man with the life experience that no other president has had, with intimate knowledge of living 2 cultures.
True, as JFK was our first Roman Catholic president, FDR the first handicapped, Reagan the oldest, Buchanan the only bachelor, all with something giving them a unique life experience.