Umm... "a" theism means "wthout" theism. There is no "First Church of Atheism." Atheists have no organization, no dogma, no priesthood. Sorry. Atheism might be defined as a belief "about" God, but it is NOT a religion.
[1 point]211 days ago by plawlerReplyEdited 211 days ago by plawler
No, the way you are using it (i.e., "a faith") is synonymous with religion (e.g., the Mormon faith, or the Catholic faith). Atheism is a "way of thinking" or "belief" about the nature of God (i.e., that God does not exist), but it is not a faith as in a "belief system," because there are no tenets of Atheism.
[1 point]211 days ago by plawlerReplyEdited 211 days ago by plawler
Most Catholics I know when asked, Are you a Christian? will say "No, I'm a Catholic." I (a Protestant)personally prefer being called a Biblical Christian.
Catholics believe in Christ. Aren't people who believe in Christ called Christians? In cathecism classes the nuns never told the class to deny we were Christians.
Yes, I know, BUT my experience of responses from them is, "We're Catholics first" then when asked they say, "yes, Catholics are Christians." They appear to be ingrained with loyalty to Catholicism first and Christianity second, which is reversed in my opinion.
Martin Luther, a pious Catholic priest, was quite upset about the Catholic leadership's money raising methods of selling indulgencies (fast track or immediate tickets to Heaven for oneself or relatives for cash) which is appallingly non-Biblical. He posted his protest on the church's door and was subsequently excommunicated. He didn't want to start a new church, but just wanted the church to stop the practice because of this perverted Gospel that we can somehow earn our way to Heaven when it is through repentance and faith alone through Christ alone. www.needGod.com
Martin Luther, whose writings gave Hitler his ideas to rid Europe of certain people. [Luther, Martin. On the Jews and Their Lies, cited in Michael, Robert. "Luther, Luther Scholars, and the Jews," Encounter 46 (Autumn 1985) No. 4:343-344.]
I'm not excusing them, just saying that because he made bad mistakes in some areas doesn't mean he never was able to something good that has helped many people. If anyone who sins badly is disqualified from having a positive impact in another area then we all will be disqualified and there is no hope.
So you had no problems with someone like, say, Bill Clinton, right? Because sinning badly in one area did not disqualify him from performing well in other areas.
No, I'm saying that they typically regard it less than the traditions of man that they are taught. Otherwise, they would throw out the traditions that are in opposition to what the Bible teaches.
Stranger than the first Protestant, Martin Luther, whose writings gave Hitler his ideas to rid Europe of certain people. [Luther, Martin. On the Jews and Their Lies, cited in Michael, Robert. "Luther, Luther Scholars, and the Jews," Encounter 46 (Autumn 1985) No. 4:343-344.]
The Bible is true because it's the word of God. We know it's the word of God because it says so in the Bible. That's a lovely bit of circular logic there. ;o)
what about all the other religions? but mostly why are there two boxes which cover Christianity? are you saying Christianity is the most important religion?
Im not saying that Christianity is the most important I just curious as to how many people were in The catholic or the Christian religion. Catholic and Christianity ARE to separate religions with similar beliefs.
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None of the above.
Ah! I bet you're an atheist but you hold atheism is not a religion, right? :-)
There is always agnostism. I'm none of the above too.
Oh, that's right.
I personally do not subscribe to any organized religion.
It's not, at least pragmatic atheism.
Wikipedia defines it more concisely than I would have:
individuals live as if there are no gods and explain natural phenomena without resorting to the divine. .
"nulltheism" also defines my attitude:
"Null:nothing: a quantity of no importance"
I kinda like this page...secular/nonreligious/agnostic/atheist are lumped together in the number 3 spot...1.1 billion of us! Woo-hoooo!
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
Umm... "a" theism means "wthout" theism. There is no "First Church of Atheism." Atheists have no organization, no dogma, no priesthood. Sorry. Atheism might be defined as a belief "about" God, but it is NOT a religion.
So does this make it a "faith" but not a "religion"?
No, the way you are using it (i.e., "a faith") is synonymous with religion (e.g., the Mormon faith, or the Catholic faith). Atheism is a "way of thinking" or "belief" about the nature of God (i.e., that God does not exist), but it is not a faith as in a "belief system," because there are no tenets of Atheism.
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
Tee hee!
Why tee hee? This chart doesn't declare Atheism to be a religion.
Catholics are Christians, Why are they a separate group?
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[1 point] 211 days ago byMost Catholics I know when asked, Are you a Christian? will say "No, I'm a Catholic." I (a Protestant)personally prefer being called a Biblical Christian.
Catholics believe in Christ. Aren't people who believe in Christ called Christians? In cathecism classes the nuns never told the class to deny we were Christians.
Yes, I know, BUT my experience of responses from them is, "We're Catholics first" then when asked they say, "yes, Catholics are Christians." They appear to be ingrained with loyalty to Catholicism first and Christianity second, which is reversed in my opinion.
What about Protesters, oops, Protestants? Weren't they just rebellious Catholics?
Martin Luther, a pious Catholic priest, was quite upset about the Catholic leadership's money raising methods of selling indulgencies (fast track or immediate tickets to Heaven for oneself or relatives for cash) which is appallingly non-Biblical. He posted his protest on the church's door and was subsequently excommunicated. He didn't want to start a new church, but just wanted the church to stop the practice because of this perverted Gospel that we can somehow earn our way to Heaven when it is through repentance and faith alone through Christ alone. www.needGod.com
Martin Luther, whose writings gave Hitler his ideas to rid Europe of certain people. [Luther, Martin. On the Jews and Their Lies, cited in Michael, Robert. "Luther, Luther Scholars, and the Jews," Encounter 46 (Autumn 1985) No. 4:343-344.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#cite_note-83
An honorable man?
He was a sinner through and through, just like me and you. www.needGod.com Thank God for His grace that has covered my sins through Jesus Christ!
Sorry. You don't get to excuse bad deeds by saying, "we are all sinners."
I'm not excusing them, just saying that because he made bad mistakes in some areas doesn't mean he never was able to something good that has helped many people. If anyone who sins badly is disqualified from having a positive impact in another area then we all will be disqualified and there is no hope.
So you had no problems with someone like, say, Bill Clinton, right? Because sinning badly in one area did not disqualify him from performing well in other areas.
IMO he (Pres. Clinton) didn't perform well in ANY area!
Really? So you prefer an unbalanced budget and a war that's costing us $1,000,000 every 18 minutes?
Well they are mistaken then, Catholics are under the Christian religion. They are mistaken about their own religion, pathetic....
Catholicism was the mothership of christianity, after all :-)
So you're saying that Catholics don't believe in the Bible? ;o)
No, I'm saying that they typically regard it less than the traditions of man that they are taught. Otherwise, they would throw out the traditions that are in opposition to what the Bible teaches.
You mean like when Moses and the Israelites were told to kill all of the men and the women who had "known" men but keep the virgins for themselves?
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Holy Sister Mary Margaret, I thought Catholics were Christians also.
We be corrected by de preacher man methinks. =]
Catholics are like Christians, but way stranger.
Stranger than the first Protestant, Martin Luther, whose writings gave Hitler his ideas to rid Europe of certain people. [Luther, Martin. On the Jews and Their Lies, cited in Michael, Robert. "Luther, Luther Scholars, and the Jews," Encounter 46 (Autumn 1985) No. 4:343-344.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#cite_note-83
An honorable man?
"The fool has said in his heart 'There is no God.'" Psalm 14:1
The Bible is true because it's the word of God. We know it's the word of God because it says so in the Bible. That's a lovely bit of circular logic there. ;o)
Catholic is a branch of the Christian tree, It is not separate from it....
None of the above - Jewish if properly asked.
what about all the other religions? but mostly why are there two boxes which cover Christianity? are you saying Christianity is the most important religion?
Im not saying that Christianity is the most important I just curious as to how many people were in The catholic or the Christian religion. Catholic and Christianity ARE to separate religions with similar beliefs.
No, Catholic is a form of Christianity, just like Methodists or Presbyterians, or Pentecostals or Episcopalians.
Catholics are Christians like all other Christians. Catholicism belongs to the wider religion of Christianity. It should be the same group.
None of the above for me too. I'm a Buddhist, or at least I try to be.
900 million Hindus worldwide...they rank forth in major religions. :-)