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What do you believe to be the strongest contributor to America's low standing in the world's eyes?
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None of the responses fit my thinking. I think it is due to the lack of respect from the former president. 8 years of looking down on everyone doesn't help either.
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I understand what you're wanting to say, but the question is phrased in a way that requires you to answer what you believe has caused it in other nation's eyes, not your own. Your response may be quite true for Americans, but other nations don't lay blame directly on a president. Mind you, we did think he was an idiot, but that was just as a person. The general public had no idea about his politics. Anyway, shouldn't a president just be a figurehead on the bow of the ship of majority opinion? Food for thought...
Doesn't work like that. Although the position is described as 'Chief Executive,' meaning he is the top administrator for carrying out policy as determined by Congress, in practice the office has been becoming more and more independent of constraint, a process that has been accelerating over the past 75 years or so.
The President of the US is a powerful man (could be women one day) maybe the single most powerful in the world. But you are correct, he really cant do much without the backing of the congress. Just about everything Bush gets bashed about was voted up or down by congress. Yes he came across as a dufus or a rube and that probably didn't help his image, but things like the war in Iraq were approved by congress thus approved by the people so to speak, things didn't go the way the people thought it should and they quickly forgot their support.
I think I did answer the question. Bush showed very little respect for other countries. I am sure most European leaders and others in the Middle East, and Asia, felt his condescending demeanor. I also think Obama is showing respect even if he doesn't agree with a particular countries policies such as Iran. I really love hearing from people from other countries. I always wondered what people elsewhere thought of the US.
OK, I suppose it's reasonable to state that disrespect of a country's leader is a primary reason for an individual to dislike an entire country. I don't agree that it is enough to change the overall world perspective though, and even if I did think that, I'd still like to know which of the four stated options are the strongest candidate in your eyes. These four are the ones that are discussed the most highly at dinner tables around my sphere of influence at least.
Also meddling in the economies of other countries.
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[0 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyI'm sure you'd like to think so. :-)
Yes, I'm sure the rest of the world is really jealous of your national debt, what is it these days? $11 Trillion or so?
Somethign like $36,000 for every person in the US?
Most of everything you have is owned by china or japan, if they pulled the plug, you would collapse like a house of cards.
(Not that UK is all that much better off, but then again we don't go around claiming the rest of the world is jealous of us either!)
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[0 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyIf you really believe my comments reinforce yours in anyway, you are truly insane.
If you insist on the childs game of "my country is better than your country" we too are plagued by immigration attempts. If fact if you were to compare the relative size of the UK and US with the numbers of people trying to enter each, we are probably worse off per sq mile than you are.
America is a great country in many ways, and is my second favourite country personally, not that that matters so much.
However, arrogance and stupidity are not the qualities of the great, and America is great in spite of, not because of, people who exhibit those qualities, both on this site, and elsewhere.
"Your comments prove my statement"???
Not only has America changed the way the English language is spelled, it seems an American is leading the way in redefining the definition of the word "proof". I really am going to struggle to teach English this year now that there are two very distinct brands of it.
I believe there are far more people who do everything they can to migrate to a country other than America, or in fact choose to stay in their own, than there are those hankering for a burger and some fries. Then there are of course the tourists who choose Europe, Africa or Asia well ahead of America.
Given that, I can explain your belief that your country appears to be the promised land to people from 3rd-world countries. It's the same reason I give for the ill-informed statements many Americans make about anything geographical or historical - lack of education. And just so you don't feel I am picking on America, I have a distinct distaste for any person who makes sweeping statements about how great their own country is without having possession of the facts. People coming from countries that withhold information from their citizens are all in the same boat, and that includes Americans, except that there is one very big difference. Americans have the resources and speak the chosen language of business and technology to be able to find out the facts. People from third-world countries don't have access to the information they need to make informed decisions - they just know about the "American dream". What information they do have is based on the "have a nice day" plastic smile version of life in America - the version that you are all defending when you could more proactively be looking deeper into the real substance of your culture.
There is a huge influx of migrants into the UK and Australia, as well as many other developed countries. They'll go where they think they'll be able to support their family. America just happens to be the most well known of the developed countries because that's what they see on TV and at the movies. They think they know what America is.
I don't blame the everyday American for standing up for their country. It would be unnatural for you not to do so. I don't enjoy listening to them deflect by trying to find fault with others whilst making blind or nonfactual statements about how "great" their own country is.
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other nations suck anyway, so who cares what they think...
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[3 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyIs that so? Then you should take a much closer look. I think you'll find that over the last 10 years the feeling has become much closer to universal. If you weren't all so defensive and blinkered you may be able to see the problems and turn things around. With very few exceptions, the Americans I meet are unable to admit openly that they have significant internal problems, or that anything other than a change of government can fix things. Nearly all of them have the same attitude as you, and therefore my vote goes with "blind, excessive patriotism".
They are part of the right-wing nutcases that hang out everywhere. There is no reasoning with them. They are perfect examples of what one Libertarian icon referred to as "the insanity of xenophobia."
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[-2 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyLOL - so shoot me for being in the majority. I'd prefer to say that I am disappointed that so many otherwise good people living in the US are being sucked in to the vortex and becoming unapproachable, defensive and holier than thou.
And I wouldn't know what a Liberal (begin the word with a capital letter if you are referring to the proper noun version of it) was if I fell over one. Politics doesn't float my boat the way it does others. I vote for the person best qualified for the job, not a party.
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyThat's a very good point, and one must remember that sites such as this do attract the more vocal of us all - from both sides of the fence. As much as I vehemently dislike the ill-formed rusty blade these trolls like to wield, I must admit that I invite their attention by using forums like these, and posing questions as igneous as this.
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[-1 points] 3 years ago by deleted user Replysome people seem to have missed my subtle sarcasm... "why do they hate America?" "screw them, America hates them too"
Subtlety is unlikely to work here, leehouse. To detect it you'd need a more highly operational mind than that possessed by many who use this site. I'm learning quickly that most only operate with a sledgehammer.
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[4 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyI would say that the attitude of people like this is also a major factor! :)
Everything but the education I would say.
Interesting. Wouldn't poor education of the general populace actually be the underlying reason for the other three?
I would say blind, excessive patriotism mostly.
I agree with you on the surface, however I am of the firm belief that education can give people the tools to intelligently comprehend their environment. I don't mean formal education, although that's a strong part of it. So if people were able to form opinion based on wider input, and could analyse that input more effectively, I believe their patriotism would naturally be tempered to an acceptable and normal level.
A great of truth in that. We don't teach anything resembling critical thinking until college level here, at which time it is too late for most people. It was exactly wider input, in the form of an accident of state's policies on educational standards, that taught me just how suspect those standards might be.
Take high school level American History. I took it three times in high school. I come from a military family, moved a lot, and it was required a different year in each of three states. None of the states would accept an A from another state as satisfying the requirement, so I repeated the class with each move.
Now, one would think that for a country less than 200 years old (this was about 1965), and for which original documents still exist on practically every major event, its history would be pretty much unchanging, regardless of which state taught it. And one would be completely wrong.
By chance, I took it in what had been, at the time of the Civil War, a slave state, a free state, and a territory. So they all three had different myths about the issue of slavery, which was an issue from the time of the framing of the Constitution. American History in our schools is nothing more than the local re-telling of the American creation myth, on par with the story of Romulus and Remus. (Which is, I suspect, why folks like the right-wing nut-cases defend it like religion. It is TAUGHT as religion, not history).
And that is just one example. For instance, they never mention in those same history classes in any of those states that some of the Founding Fathers were very concerned about a lack of national educational standards and schools, and campaigned heavily for same. They felt that a certain knowledge base should be the right of every American.
They lost, and it stayed a states' rights issue. Which is how you end up with travesties like the Scopes Trial, the Indiana State Legislature redefining pi=3 (died in their senate; happened in 1897), and the current attempts to teach religion instead of science in biology classes.
It makes it very easy to substitute blind jingoism for real thought.
At the same time do you really want a federal government that has failed at just about everything, involved in education? Would you want educational standards being a political tool (weapon)? Do you no see that a nationalized school system could be very dangerous...somewhat like what happened Germany under Hitler?
Just consider if christian fundamentalist were to take over a few key positions in the federal government creationism may be the ONLY version taught...there are many scenarios where factions or groups could negatively influence a whole nation under a national system.
Well smaller countries cope with nationalized school systems, such as my own. And what we find is every examination to be standard. Wherever you go, if you have a certain grade in a certain subject it means you will have certain qualities to deserve that. Just a question to you Americans, could any of you tell me how high in education you have to go before you learn about other country's history?
General history is taught throughout school. World Civilization and Western Civilization, its just we don't bother to learn it all that much. Which other country's history are you concerned about Americans learning?
Nothing in particular, just wondered as America is a relatively young country.
Well we study world history...admittedly we don't spend tooooo much time on it but it is taught probably as early as the 5th and 6th grades.
World history is significant in the sense that the fall of the Roman and British Empires predicate what's happening today with America. The world is a cyclic place. But never mind the deep and heavy view, it's just important for American children to gain a balanced view of the world, and this simply doesn't happen.
The other missing piece of the puzzle is not quite as important, but still a strong contributor to why the rest of us don't apply much credibility to Americans - and that's World Geography. Watching Americans trying to place international locations on a map is a fantastic exercise for the eye muscles, as we roll them over and over. :-)
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[-2 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyWhat's not to like about this? It's hilarious.
There are so many holes in that man's discourse I could use it to strain my spaghetti. Not to mention it's 99% personal opinion, with almost no substantiated fact at all (he spelled the names of some countries correctly, and even figured out who some leaders were!).
So, who is Dennis Prager (don't bother answering, I have access to Wikipedia and can see that "...he is noted for conservative political views frequently based in religious faith..."), why is he an "expert" on the matter, and how many times have you copied and pasted this into a forum?
I'm right-handed, by the way. Does that mean I'm not part of the "left", whatever that is? ;-)
Humour aside, if you do believe this diatribe, then ask yourself this question. Is the "left" a significantly minor group? If not, and if you believe anything in this diatribe, then America still has an issue to accept and deal with.
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[-1 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyI can say for one thing, if the British right like America it is certainly a recent thing that I was not aware of. I'd say the British are in constant exasperation with America. I'll take an American novel to explain. Take it that America is Lenny and Britain is George in Steinbeck's "Of Mice And Men". America is far more powerful, but a little lacking in sense.
That's a wonderful analogy.
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Good for you Jonmarc, Well stated opinion. Don't let the Left's disingenuousness stop you. (Even though it gets old sometimes)
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[0 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyTotal New Speak. You really are quite good at it.
all of the above -
I've taught English for the past several years and have spoken with over 400 people. I often do some cultural exercises etc. 99.9% of the people I have spoken to - all over Eur and Asia - don't have much respect for American gov't, policies, etc. They feel American's are arrogant and feel they are the only country in the world.
The article leans a bit. For example - the French election was VERY close and Sarkozy was accused of 'kissing butt w/ Americans" which is a bad thing over there.
America is becoming less and less educated in all subjects. Reading, writing, and math seem to be the only important things in school these days. Sure they teach history but they do not teach current world problems and have classes to make our future generations learn how to think and process what is going on with our country/world. To not teach our future generations to think we are helping them to be blind, unreasonable, and violent. Uneducated people are more likely to not THINK things through and the decisions are quick and harsh. If our education system gets out of the dark ages our young would be better prepared to handle our nations problems without making our nation look bad.
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[-2 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyLack of respect for the US has been brewing for years, well before the new guy started. If you need to find a single point (and it's far too complex to do so) try the Iraq War, or perhaps even further back to Vietnam.
I would have to agree with that. The international community realized that the 'liberatiion' of Viet Nam meant 'liberating' it from it's owners within a very short time of the French pulling out. Our continual raucous insistence that we were keeping the world safe from Communism just didn't wash. Unfortunately, may of the top American policy makers were taken in, too. McNamara's eventual realization, at a state dinner with the Viet Namese President, no less, that they had seen the war as liberation from US, is poignant.
It wasn't just the politics, I think the fact that despite a incredible tech advantage, and an economic/industrial base advantage so far in advance of N V that it probably could not be calculated, America still lost the war, did a lot to devalue American military credibility.
(I know many will say you did not lose but that is very hollow).
There were good reason you lost, the 2 main ones were the unfavourable media coverage, and the idiotic politicians trying to micro-manage the war, but to those not of a military mind, that mattered little.
Coming after the draw in Korea, you had to go back to WW2 to find a decent US Victory.
Even in the firsdt gulf war your politicians lost the bottle to finish the job, and had to go back and do it all again.
It is one thing having massive conventional forces, but if they are badly used, they do not generate as much respect as your might otherwise think.
And before someone jumps on me, yes I do realise that the lessons of Vietnam were absorbed, and the all professional army that followed the conscript one, was much better in so many ways.
And again, I need to point out that I mean no disrespect to the brave teenagers and men that went where they were send, and did the best they could under horrible conditions.
I worked with a woman whose nephew was one of the first deployed to Iraq back in 2003. She was LIVID, and so was her nephew. Somehow, they both thought that joining the Marine Corps had nothing to do with killing and being killed, and was just a nifty way to get a college degree without having to repay a loan.
We haven't "won' a 'war' since WWII. If you think Korea qualifies, you haven't spoken to many of the Korean War vets, especially those that were denied G.I. benefits for years and years because it wasn't a war, it was a 'police action.'
I truly believe our abysmal track record since WWII is due to the fact that in every one of those subsequent conflicts, we were fighting for imperialism, not against a tyrant.
Why not the Spanish-American war....or even the Revolutionary war?
The what? There's your answer.
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyI always thought Germans had self respect. If you thought the states were good under Bush, you have a serious problem. Most of the rest of the world are just waiting with bated breath to see if Obama turns out to be the improvement we hope he will be.
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[0 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyTwo things - open your eyes and look at the big picture, and get some real understanding about what it takes to run a country as complicated and multi-faceted as America - without a doubt the most difficult country in the world to manage.
I suppose if you think that it should be easy to fix America with a couple of quick decisions, in a matter of months, then the new guy should have already fixed it if he was any good, right? Unfortunately you'd be showing your ignorance with that position. America is not a broken plastic toy that just needs some glue. It's a giant machine that has been broken for many decades and will take just as many to repair, if it ever can.
Right now is a key time of world change, and with it comes a real opportunity for Americans to become genuinely politically and world aware. I hope that opportunity is not squandered by those continuing to exercise immature, party-specific, country-specific ideals.
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[0 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyIn an increasingly secular world, it is hard to take seriously American politicians who openly express the belief that the world is only 6,000 years old, and that a collection of far-fetched stories from long ago are a sound basis for modern politics.
The reaction of most people is one of first amazement, and then amusement, not exactly the best foundation for respect.
And of course you also have other parts fo the world with their own differing religious beliefs who find these same people a threat, and not at all funny.
Bit of a lose-lose situation really :(
Where should we start? I got it! How about complete disregard for the Geneva Convention during the last administration?
How about a total ignorance of the rest of the world?
Most people affected by US elections are ineligible to vote because they'll never set foot in the country, and those who are eligible don't care about anyone else.