The Republican party is doing a great job preventing anything from being passed in Congress.
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Against all odds, the government hasn't taken over 20% of the American economy. I was not in the back halls of congress to find out who did what to whom, but I would bet that Republicans were working against the government grab.
In my opinion, both the House and Senate versions of the health care bills are bad bills. They cannot become one bill that can be signed into law without circumventing the intent of reconciliation and it has taken more than a year to get it this far.
If you are going to be picky, yes, both houses of congress passed health care bills, but they are not compatible and can not be passed into law (edit: without Reconciliation) or signed by the President.
[1 point]2 years ago by JWBrothersReplyEdited 2 years ago by JWBrothers
Cap and trade is pretty much dead according to the NY Times- that was something else the government tried to shove down our throats, blocked by the republicans... pretty much.
I've seen cap and trade work well with air pollution and there is no reason it wouldn't work for carbon reduction. There are three problems with the idea though.
1) Now that the most prominent Green scientist has proven to be a liar and thief, no one knows who to believe about man-made climate change/global warming.
2) If global warming is continuing and is getting worse, many doubt that a reduction in one country's output can solve the problem.
3) The sudden rise in energy prices following the temporary loss of 6% of the nation's oil cracking plants from Katrina was the catalyst for the downturn in the economy. Many are afraid of doing that again.
The Republicans listed by translate apparently felt that the problems I mentioned were not enough of a problem to cause them to vote against it.
The cap and trade bill, compared to the Obamacare bills, doesn't take over the control of all energy industry, uses acceptable accounting practices that allows for much more accurate cost estimates, and does address the worst of the abuses of the system. So I wouldn't reject cap and trade as a bad bill, though I would vote against it for two of the three reasons I outlined above.
They are doing what they can but the Dem's have the majority right now and can pretty much do what ever they want. I think the Dem's are more of an obstacle than the Rep's.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyThey are doing a great job preventing bad bills from being passed,,,,as it should be.
Exactly right.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyAgainst all odds, the government hasn't taken over 20% of the American economy. I was not in the back halls of congress to find out who did what to whom, but I would bet that Republicans were working against the government grab.
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[2 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyIn my opinion, both the House and Senate versions of the health care bills are bad bills. They cannot become one bill that can be signed into law without circumventing the intent of reconciliation and it has taken more than a year to get it this far.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyIf you are going to be picky, yes, both houses of congress passed health care bills, but they are not compatible and can not be passed into law (edit: without Reconciliation) or signed by the President.
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[2 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyCap and trade is pretty much dead according to the NY Times- that was something else the government tried to shove down our throats, blocked by the republicans... pretty much.
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[2 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyI've seen cap and trade work well with air pollution and there is no reason it wouldn't work for carbon reduction. There are three problems with the idea though.
1) Now that the most prominent Green scientist has proven to be a liar and thief, no one knows who to believe about man-made climate change/global warming.
2) If global warming is continuing and is getting worse, many doubt that a reduction in one country's output can solve the problem.
3) The sudden rise in energy prices following the temporary loss of 6% of the nation's oil cracking plants from Katrina was the catalyst for the downturn in the economy. Many are afraid of doing that again.
The Republicans listed by translate apparently felt that the problems I mentioned were not enough of a problem to cause them to vote against it.
The cap and trade bill, compared to the Obamacare bills, doesn't take over the control of all energy industry, uses acceptable accounting practices that allows for much more accurate cost estimates, and does address the worst of the abuses of the system. So I wouldn't reject cap and trade as a bad bill, though I would vote against it for two of the three reasons I outlined above.
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[2 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyThey are doing what they can but the Dem's have the majority right now and can pretty much do what ever they want. I think the Dem's are more of an obstacle than the Rep's.
I'm so very happy. I hope it sends a clear message that your representatives are the voice of the people, not our parents.