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I haven't taken the test yet, but is it not possible that the driving is made to be too hard so that people will have to pay to do it over and over again?
you are very observant & astute. do some research & try to find out what the examiners are supposed to inform you about. this knowledge will make all the difference in your results.
Driving isn't hard for me, I should be doing, but even though I haven't taken it yet from what I've heard it's a doozy.
What you said makes sense but if it's the government's interests to have more drivers, then why are we being forced to jump through more and more hoops and having to pay a lot of money to attempt to jump through these hoops to get our licences?
'Fly has a British flag by his name; has said he is vacationing in Scotland; and says he attends boarding school in Britain. He uses Britishisms in his 'speech.' If you read the posts, 'Fly speaks at length about incidents that lead one to beleive that he is asking this question because of a problem he encountered with HIS driving test. Which one might reasonably assume was in Great Britain, given the school, the vacation, the flag, etc. Perhaps the question IS about UK driving tests, at least on one level.
I spent some time looking at the licencing (See? Brit!) website noodling around before I asked you when you took that test. Looks to me like they are quite a bit more stringent than Texas, Washington, California, or West Virginia, those being states in which I have tested.
Thanks, and I prefer the term "United Kingdomese", since Northern Ireland isn't technically part of Great Britain. Apparently we're not "great" enough.
A little update on the boarding school thing, I don't go there anymore, I'm in college now (which means a lot less here than it does in USA) and living with my brother.
Well, as I pointed out, I have taken four tests just in this country, and they were all different, including different degrees of difficulty. I don't see how this question can be answered, except in terms of specifics.
And how come something ridiculously minor such as not putting on the handbrake when at a Stop sign on a flat road when you're stopped anyway result in a failure?
In the USA you can retake the test in a few weeks if you fail it the first time you take it. I decided to take it on the day I picked up the drivers manual just so I would know what to study. I discovered that the state's test making department makes the multiple choice questions so easy that a person using just a tad of logic can pass without reading the drivers manual at all. That is what happened when I took the test, I left the driver's test building with a copy of the manual and my driver's permit.
To answer your question, no, the test was not too hard.
I cannot even begin to fathom how my aunt got her drivers manual and studied it fervently before she took the test. She failed. She studied the manual again, studying harder than before. She flunked again. Finally she passed the third time she took it. Go figure, huh? 'Like I said, anyone possessing just a tad of logic can pass it with no problem.
Maybe for a test of this nature reading the manual just introduces confusion. Perhaps the correct test answers are more discernible to anyone if they take the test using only commonsense rather than a hodge-podge of extra information not really vital to passing the test? Ya think? :)
[1 point]2 years ago by ChipmonkReplyEdited 2 years ago by Chipmonk
1972.. the same year I saw Led Zeppelin rocking Madison Square Garden following the release of Led Zeppelin III.. two years after Ozzie formed Black Sabbath and rocked the Fillmore East.
[1 point]2 years ago by ChipmonkReplyEdited 2 years ago by Chipmonk
Well I took the multiple choice portion of the test last Thursday, and without studying like a maniac you WILL NOT get it. No doubt about it. The pass mark is a whooping 86%, so if you even get 8 out of the 50 questions wrong, you will fail. Not to mention that some questions have 5 or 6 choices and make you choose 2 or 3, and without getting the perfect combination they will mark you wrong.
There are also questions that have nothing to do with driving. This one came up as my last question:
"A pedestrian is carrying a white stick with a red band. This means he's:
The test I took we could miss six and pass. I missed four. It probably would have benefited the state of Kentucky if I have missed seven and then knew what to study, but I passed and never did read the manual. ;)
When I lived in Midland, Tx, I was sent to the school all the rich kids attended (it's the 'public' school Bushie attended, San Jacinto Jr. High--he was there two years before me. Public is in quotes because although ti was a public school, the attendance lines were drawn so that only a few token poor kids were included. For example--Patty Inerarity's mom was allergic to sunlight. So they had the Olympic swimming pool, two tennis courts, and a two-lane bowling alley installed underground at their house. RICH--oil money rich, in the 1960s).
Driving age was 15, but every single one of those kids got a shiny new Mustang or other muscle car for their 14the birthday. And they did NOT get tickets for driving to school, either.
If you think that's a pain, spare a thought for bikers. To get your full license you have to pass 4 different tests: CBT, theory, Module 1 off road practical and Module 2 on road practical.
Oh great! I was planning to get my motorbike licence after my car licence, then I planned to get a helicopter licence, I bet you have to swim through a sea of shit to get that!
Clearly driving tests need to have a certain level of difficulty to ensure prospective drivers are competent. The problem in this country is that the emphasis is on passing the tests, rather than on the actual learning process. You can learn in a week in a car with your dad and get a license if you want. To my mind that's not sufficient. Because there is less emphasis on the level of training, the test is stricter than perhaps it needs to be. I think that stricter regulations on the learning phase would be better than the test being "harder", because that would ensure a higher level of driving experience.
United Kingdom
It isn't hard here.
It's hard here, too hard. Even the most experienced drivers could make a tiny mistake that they interpret as an automatic fail.
study your rule book. take driver ed in school if you can. get LOTS of practice. & relax, because nervousness makes you fail.
Good advice, but we don't have driver ed.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyI haven't taken the test yet, but is it not possible that the driving is made to be too hard so that people will have to pay to do it over and over again?
you are very observant & astute. do some research & try to find out what the examiners are supposed to inform you about. this knowledge will make all the difference in your results.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyReally? You're not willing to consider that it's even possible? When was the last time you took a driving test?
it's not only possible, but your assumption is correct; but only in my very limited realm.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyDriving isn't hard for me, I should be doing, but even though I haven't taken it yet from what I've heard it's a doozy.
What you said makes sense but if it's the government's interests to have more drivers, then why are we being forced to jump through more and more hoops and having to pay a lot of money to attempt to jump through these hoops to get our licences?
Sorry to be so confrontational, but when did you take the driving test in Great Britain?
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyNeedlessly?
'Fly has a British flag by his name; has said he is vacationing in Scotland; and says he attends boarding school in Britain. He uses Britishisms in his 'speech.' If you read the posts, 'Fly speaks at length about incidents that lead one to beleive that he is asking this question because of a problem he encountered with HIS driving test. Which one might reasonably assume was in Great Britain, given the school, the vacation, the flag, etc. Perhaps the question IS about UK driving tests, at least on one level.
I spent some time looking at the licencing (See? Brit!) website noodling around before I asked you when you took that test. Looks to me like they are quite a bit more stringent than Texas, Washington, California, or West Virginia, those being states in which I have tested.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/drivers.aspx
Thanks, and I prefer the term "United Kingdomese", since Northern Ireland isn't technically part of Great Britain. Apparently we're not "great" enough.
A little update on the boarding school thing, I don't go there anymore, I'm in college now (which means a lot less here than it does in USA) and living with my brother.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyWould that change much if you were?
Well, as I pointed out, I have taken four tests just in this country, and they were all different, including different degrees of difficulty. I don't see how this question can be answered, except in terms of specifics.
you r knot confrontational.
how can 1 know about other country's tests & rules?
& i assume sfng is talking about the road test, not the written test for the permit.
I am, but the written test is just as bullshit.
not true in some cases (many), sorry.
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[3 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyHow do so many total imbeciles still get licenses?
And how come something ridiculously minor such as not putting on the handbrake when at a Stop sign on a flat road when you're stopped anyway result in a failure?
It wouldn't here.
Lucky.
not always true (often)
It is best to have a driving instructor, because they are friends with the driving tester.
Plus the driving instructor would want you to pass because it is bad publicity for him if he has students that fail.
Choose an instructor in your area, with a good reputation and or recommended by friends.
I already did exactly that. Thanks.
The test isn't hard but logging 120 compulsory hours of practise before the test is a bit trying.
That isn't required here.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyIn the USA you can retake the test in a few weeks if you fail it the first time you take it. I decided to take it on the day I picked up the drivers manual just so I would know what to study. I discovered that the state's test making department makes the multiple choice questions so easy that a person using just a tad of logic can pass without reading the drivers manual at all. That is what happened when I took the test, I left the driver's test building with a copy of the manual and my driver's permit.
To answer your question, no, the test was not too hard.
I cannot even begin to fathom how my aunt got her drivers manual and studied it fervently before she took the test. She failed. She studied the manual again, studying harder than before. She flunked again. Finally she passed the third time she took it. Go figure, huh? 'Like I said, anyone possessing just a tad of logic can pass it with no problem.
Maybe for a test of this nature reading the manual just introduces confusion. Perhaps the correct test answers are more discernible to anyone if they take the test using only commonsense rather than a hodge-podge of extra information not really vital to passing the test? Ya think? :)
How long ago did you take the test?
1972.. the same year I saw Led Zeppelin rocking Madison Square Garden following the release of Led Zeppelin III.. two years after Ozzie formed Black Sabbath and rocked the Fillmore East.
Well I took the multiple choice portion of the test last Thursday, and without studying like a maniac you WILL NOT get it. No doubt about it. The pass mark is a whooping 86%, so if you even get 8 out of the 50 questions wrong, you will fail. Not to mention that some questions have 5 or 6 choices and make you choose 2 or 3, and without getting the perfect combination they will mark you wrong.
There are also questions that have nothing to do with driving. This one came up as my last question:
"A pedestrian is carrying a white stick with a red band. This means he's:
A. Blind only
B. Deaf only
C. Blind and Deaf
D. Mental"
The test I took we could miss six and pass. I missed four. It probably would have benefited the state of Kentucky if I have missed seven and then knew what to study, but I passed and never did read the manual. ;)
You were lucky that you got relevant questions that could be deduced by logic. Very lucky.
So Kentucky has looser standards than Great Britain.
United Kingdom.
That's a given, they let 16 year olds drive.
When I lived in Midland, Tx, I was sent to the school all the rich kids attended (it's the 'public' school Bushie attended, San Jacinto Jr. High--he was there two years before me. Public is in quotes because although ti was a public school, the attendance lines were drawn so that only a few token poor kids were included. For example--Patty Inerarity's mom was allergic to sunlight. So they had the Olympic swimming pool, two tennis courts, and a two-lane bowling alley installed underground at their house. RICH--oil money rich, in the 1960s).
Driving age was 15, but every single one of those kids got a shiny new Mustang or other muscle car for their 14the birthday. And they did NOT get tickets for driving to school, either.
Wow... spoilt kids.
If you think that's a pain, spare a thought for bikers. To get your full license you have to pass 4 different tests: CBT, theory, Module 1 off road practical and Module 2 on road practical.
Oh great! I was planning to get my motorbike licence after my car licence, then I planned to get a helicopter licence, I bet you have to swim through a sea of shit to get that!
How easy do you think the tests should be given that inexperienced drivers are responsible for many deaths and injuries?
Easy enough that reasonably good drivers who won't kill everybody pass. Too much to ask?
Clearly driving tests need to have a certain level of difficulty to ensure prospective drivers are competent. The problem in this country is that the emphasis is on passing the tests, rather than on the actual learning process. You can learn in a week in a car with your dad and get a license if you want. To my mind that's not sufficient. Because there is less emphasis on the level of training, the test is stricter than perhaps it needs to be. I think that stricter regulations on the learning phase would be better than the test being "harder", because that would ensure a higher level of driving experience.
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