Smoking bans should extend into the private homes of individuals where children would be exposed to it.
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Why couldn't smokers be required to be in a plastic bubble, so they can smoke anywhere they want, but no one would be affected by their exhausts (they would self-contained).
This is the usual response to implementation, and with good reason. Yes, it would be almost impossible to enforce without compromising other key rights. I think it would end up being used to pad other charges, or a "doorway" violation for law enforcement to move forward with a larger investigation, as police sometimes do when they pull someone over for a seatbelt infraction, just so they can search the car.
In the end, all smokers who also had children would be scrutinized.
I think it is highly impractical to enforce and therefore not such a great thing to regulate by law. I do agree that smoking in the presence of children is a very bad thing that society should seek to minimize. But the way to go would be education of the parents. Like we now have a campaign that tells about the dangers of alcohol on developing brains. There are many similar damaging things, drinking when you are pregnant or feeding your kids on hamburgers and fries.
You make some good points, however, as burgers and fries are the main staple foodstuffs of over 75% of Americans, there's not much scrutiny - nor any real movement - toward eliminating or minimizing the consumption of those meals.
An entire topic for another good question. Necessity will eventually force America to reevaluate its food choices, and resource consumption in general. Education on healthy and responsible alternatives is the cure for the problem. Regulating such things by law is not practical, and just makes people rebellious to change, even if it's positive.
I agree. I think this is the prudent way to approach the issue. Regulation by law often is impractical - an inefficient attempt to bandage a wound, at best. To educate is to treat the source of the problem.
While I know dozens of people who believe that smoking is a right and a privilege for all human beings... And those same smokers just have no concept of the fact that those of us who do not smoke have any objection toward their habit... And a couple of my coworkers have navigated to my state (Illinois - USA) from another state which allows smoking anywhere... And the State of Illinois has banned any and all smoking inside public buildings, anywhere within 15 feet of an entrance to any public building, and banned any smoking within 100 feet of government buildings or hospitals... And those same smokers who have come to Illinois from another state and have no knowledge of the state laws...
There will unfortunately always be a group of smokers who flat out deny any harm comes from smoking tobacco or second-hand smoke... I guarantee there will be someone responding to this question protesting that smoke does no harm...
I believe that smoking around children is the same as beating a child bloody. You are permanently harming that child's health in some way. That innocent youngster will not understand how much damage is being done to their health by their family members or friends smoking around them...
If a private home is on its own property with at least 50 feet of space around it, I do not feel that any smoking restriction would be effective or appreciated. If, however, the home happens to be in an apartment building, condominium, or high-rise, there should be a strict ban with highly sensitive smoke detectors that could not be tampered with...
We do need to continue to educate people so that they don't smoke inside their homes while their children are present. Most people already go outside so as not to be inside poluting the air for others. I don't think we want government in our homes or bedrooms telling us how to live and breath. We can do the right thing without big brother watching us.
[3 points]2 years ago by hoosier2uReplyEdited 2 years ago by hoosier2u
It's good that most people you may know go outside, but most of the smokers I know do not do so. You're right in that education is the key. Laws that affect socially shared spaces are often effective, but laws that affect personal space are often impractical and just result in resistance.
My entire immediate family smoke, I being the only NON smoker in the household. This has been the case for some years. I don't think people who smoke realise that when they decide to smoke they are unconsciously making a decision for everyone that surrounds them, including their loved ones.
If I was to contract lung cancer due to passive smoke I wonder how my family would feel?
I wonder how they would feel to know they sent me to an early coffin?
Smoking needs to be banned period. Restrictions in public places, indoors means nothing.
I am still surrounded by smoke constantly, even if I do my very best to not be around it.
Smoker's I believe are weak minded and habitual. If they just stopped to think about what they were doing to those around them and started thinking about their negligent behaviour maybe there would be a lot less smokers in this world.
[1 point]2 years ago by lalebakisReplyEdited 2 years ago by lalebakis
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I think so. +
Why couldn't smokers be required to be in a plastic bubble, so they can smoke anywhere they want, but no one would be affected by their exhausts (they would self-contained).
Impracticality, most likely. But it does paint an amusing picture.
Eventually they would have to come out of their bubbles, and the toxic soup would come out with them.
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[2 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyThis is the usual response to implementation, and with good reason. Yes, it would be almost impossible to enforce without compromising other key rights. I think it would end up being used to pad other charges, or a "doorway" violation for law enforcement to move forward with a larger investigation, as police sometimes do when they pull someone over for a seatbelt infraction, just so they can search the car.
In the end, all smokers who also had children would be scrutinized.
Some folks just can't wait for 1984.
Awesome answer of the day!
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This comment doesn't really add to the discussion.
I wasn't expressing a preference or hope here. Just stating what would probably happen, given the situation, be that good or bad.
I think it is highly impractical to enforce and therefore not such a great thing to regulate by law. I do agree that smoking in the presence of children is a very bad thing that society should seek to minimize. But the way to go would be education of the parents. Like we now have a campaign that tells about the dangers of alcohol on developing brains. There are many similar damaging things, drinking when you are pregnant or feeding your kids on hamburgers and fries.
Pollewop,
You make some good points, however, as burgers and fries are the main staple foodstuffs of over 75% of Americans, there's not much scrutiny - nor any real movement - toward eliminating or minimizing the consumption of those meals.
An entire topic for another good question. Necessity will eventually force America to reevaluate its food choices, and resource consumption in general. Education on healthy and responsible alternatives is the cure for the problem. Regulating such things by law is not practical, and just makes people rebellious to change, even if it's positive.
I agree. I think this is the prudent way to approach the issue. Regulation by law often is impractical - an inefficient attempt to bandage a wound, at best. To educate is to treat the source of the problem.
While I know dozens of people who believe that smoking is a right and a privilege for all human beings... And those same smokers just have no concept of the fact that those of us who do not smoke have any objection toward their habit... And a couple of my coworkers have navigated to my state (Illinois - USA) from another state which allows smoking anywhere... And the State of Illinois has banned any and all smoking inside public buildings, anywhere within 15 feet of an entrance to any public building, and banned any smoking within 100 feet of government buildings or hospitals... And those same smokers who have come to Illinois from another state and have no knowledge of the state laws...
There will unfortunately always be a group of smokers who flat out deny any harm comes from smoking tobacco or second-hand smoke... I guarantee there will be someone responding to this question protesting that smoke does no harm...
I believe that smoking around children is the same as beating a child bloody. You are permanently harming that child's health in some way. That innocent youngster will not understand how much damage is being done to their health by their family members or friends smoking around them...
If a private home is on its own property with at least 50 feet of space around it, I do not feel that any smoking restriction would be effective or appreciated. If, however, the home happens to be in an apartment building, condominium, or high-rise, there should be a strict ban with highly sensitive smoke detectors that could not be tampered with...
We do need to continue to educate people so that they don't smoke inside their homes while their children are present. Most people already go outside so as not to be inside poluting the air for others. I don't think we want government in our homes or bedrooms telling us how to live and breath. We can do the right thing without big brother watching us.
It's good that most people you may know go outside, but most of the smokers I know do not do so. You're right in that education is the key. Laws that affect socially shared spaces are often effective, but laws that affect personal space are often impractical and just result in resistance.
Since I no longer smoke what do I have to lose? Heck yes, it should be banned ... everywhere! :)
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyMy entire immediate family smoke, I being the only NON smoker in the household. This has been the case for some years. I don't think people who smoke realise that when they decide to smoke they are unconsciously making a decision for everyone that surrounds them, including their loved ones.
If I was to contract lung cancer due to passive smoke I wonder how my family would feel?
I wonder how they would feel to know they sent me to an early coffin?
Smoking needs to be banned period. Restrictions in public places, indoors means nothing.
I am still surrounded by smoke constantly, even if I do my very best to not be around it.
Smoker's I believe are weak minded and habitual. If they just stopped to think about what they were doing to those around them and started thinking about their negligent behaviour maybe there would be a lot less smokers in this world.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyI may try this, thanks for the tip mkovacevic!
I completley agree and as a reformed smoker, it seriously repulses me now. Anyone can quit smoking if they have the right mindset.