Since we are giving all this money to the auto manufacturers why can't we make them start making electric and fuel cell cars
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The tort lawyers would sue everyone in sight, all their relatives and the family dog if someone produced a high pressure fuel system. (Required for fuel cells.)
So what? Again, I say, "Only if they produce bad ones."
Gasoline is inherently more dangerous than horses. Do you see lawsuits based on the idea that someone is allowing you to drive around with 20 or so gallons of a highly flammable HAZMAT liquid? Not so much.
There are of course lawsuits brought against those manufacturers that produce faulty gas tanks.
You asked, "Do you see lawsuits based on the idea that someone is allowing you to drive around with 20 or so gallons of a highly flammable HAZMAT liquid?"
If it had happened at the beginning of the 21st century, the tort lawyers would have tried to stop it. Just think, France would be the car capital of the world.
If they were mass produced on an assembly-line with only a 5% mark-up I bet the average family could afford them. For some reason, presently, manufacturers only want to market luxury models so they can prove there isn't any demand for them in Joe Average's family. Wiley suckers, eh? :-)
If electric cars or fuel cell cars were viable SOMEONE would be building them. Since they aren't it would only add to the problems of the car manufacturers.
On a side note, if you were to MAKE them build a car you would have a hard time forcing them to build it right. They would attempt to cut corners at any point possible and you would end up with a piece of crap that no one would buy anyway.
Actually they are very viable and proven. The problem lies in 'gas' stations with the lack of facilities to refuel. Catch 22, auto makers won't make them if there is no where to refuel and gas companies won't put stations in if there are no cars.
So, offer the gas companies interest free loans to put in place the hydrogen generators and electric outlets. This would give the auto companies no more excuses not to start making these vehicles.
This could all be done in a 3 year span.
Finally give the buyer low interest rates and available financing
Actually they are not viable if you cant get them fueled up. It is a catch 22 but you cant force them to build cars when the vast majority cant fuel them up. Maybe the government should step in and require alternative fueling stations and that would stimulate the alternative vehicles, but it wont happen the other way around.
You know, this is one of those issues where "market demand" is a great thing. Back when GM was manufacturing electric cars, big businesses like Costco were providing charging stations for their customers (in California, at least). That the cars didn't pan out had less to do with market demand and more to do with some very strange decisions by executives (in part, GM was responsible for undercutting their own car. Good doc called "Who Killed the Electric Car?" is available on this subject.)
If the big 3 were serious about such vehicles, I'm betting that deals could be struck with whatever big-box stores survive this recession to become part of the solution.
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyYou also require the auto companies to price them at or below the existing gas guzzlers ...
If they build them then the gas companies will install hydrogen and electric outlets at their stations .... Good for everyone
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyThe tort lawyers would sue everyone in sight, all their relatives and the family dog if someone produced a high pressure fuel system. (Required for fuel cells.)
Only if they produced bad ones. ;o)
Nope. Pressurized fuel is inherently more dangerous than non pressurized fuel in a crash. It's lawsuit city.
So what? Again, I say, "Only if they produce bad ones."
Gasoline is inherently more dangerous than horses. Do you see lawsuits based on the idea that someone is allowing you to drive around with 20 or so gallons of a highly flammable HAZMAT liquid? Not so much.
There are of course lawsuits brought against those manufacturers that produce faulty gas tanks.
You asked, "Do you see lawsuits based on the idea that someone is allowing you to drive around with 20 or so gallons of a highly flammable HAZMAT liquid?"
If it had happened at the beginning of the 21st century, the tort lawyers would have tried to stop it. Just think, France would be the car capital of the world.
Yep... it is a good question. The problem is that it's unanswerable as a disagree/agree continuum.
If they were mass produced on an assembly-line with only a 5% mark-up I bet the average family could afford them. For some reason, presently, manufacturers only want to market luxury models so they can prove there isn't any demand for them in Joe Average's family. Wiley suckers, eh? :-)
You cant answer 2 that one qith agree or disagree...
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[2 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyEvidence?
If electric cars or fuel cell cars were viable SOMEONE would be building them. Since they aren't it would only add to the problems of the car manufacturers.
On a side note, if you were to MAKE them build a car you would have a hard time forcing them to build it right. They would attempt to cut corners at any point possible and you would end up with a piece of crap that no one would buy anyway.
Actually they are very viable and proven. The problem lies in 'gas' stations with the lack of facilities to refuel. Catch 22, auto makers won't make them if there is no where to refuel and gas companies won't put stations in if there are no cars.
So, offer the gas companies interest free loans to put in place the hydrogen generators and electric outlets. This would give the auto companies no more excuses not to start making these vehicles.
This could all be done in a 3 year span.
Finally give the buyer low interest rates and available financing
Actually they are not viable if you cant get them fueled up. It is a catch 22 but you cant force them to build cars when the vast majority cant fuel them up. Maybe the government should step in and require alternative fueling stations and that would stimulate the alternative vehicles, but it wont happen the other way around.
You know, this is one of those issues where "market demand" is a great thing. Back when GM was manufacturing electric cars, big businesses like Costco were providing charging stations for their customers (in California, at least). That the cars didn't pan out had less to do with market demand and more to do with some very strange decisions by executives (in part, GM was responsible for undercutting their own car. Good doc called "Who Killed the Electric Car?" is available on this subject.)
If the big 3 were serious about such vehicles, I'm betting that deals could be struck with whatever big-box stores survive this recession to become part of the solution.
Ah Little Sheep. Wise creatures, all.
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[0 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyActually there are several auto companies now making the fuel cell cars ...
Chryler is one of them . Read about it here http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7064975
Honda is another one
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[-1 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyWho would have known, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a communist. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25481584/
I agree but this isn't a communist country. We can't order capitalist manufacturers to do anything they don't want to do.