| Should the Florida case again Home Depot (over a religious pin) be thrown out of court because it's frivolous? |
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Asked 2 years ago
by Chipmonk  United States |
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My bro/law was fuming when he told me some guy in Florida lost his job for violating the store's dress code -- wearing a patriotic / religious button while on duty.
When I heard the story from my bro/law I saw immediately the only way to appease him was to agree with him. I told him Home Depot's Corporate Office should respond by stating they will honor the principles of every religion. Starting today prayer mats should be made available on request for all Muslims who want to face Mecca at 5pm and say their daily prayers. Christians should be allowed to wear any buttons they like and Home Depot should loan free buttons at the door to any customer or employee who forgot his/her buttons at home. For Jewish people yamake's will be available on Jewish holy days. Old school Catholic women will be provided with tissues on holy days so they can cover their heads. And so on. Wouldn't those ideas appease you if you were a religious nut?
Here's your link to the story...
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/sfl-button-fired-bn102609,0,3892174.story
Thanks. I just assumed it was big news everywhere -- little thanks to viral emails.
The gentleman was wearing a button that had an excerpt from the Pledge of Allegiance. They apparently had an issue when he started reading his Bible during his lunch hour.
Your rantings are overboard about religious accommodations.
This case is similar to the woman who was recently fired because she wanted to wear specific clothing in accordance with her religious beliefs. In the US military they have made accommodations for Sikhs. I think they underlying issue is equal protection under the law.
According to the news reports I have read they could have invoked the dress code at any point in time. It was just coincidence that they decided to invoke it when they chose to do so, but all along it was their prerogative. He knew the dress code and he violated it. NOT ONLY THAT, but they asked him not to wear the button at work. When he refused to removed it was insubordination, just like it would be if kids required to wear uniforms to school decided to wear blue jeans every day instead of their uniforms.
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[-5 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyNonetheless employers often suck; they don't care if they're picking on kids or full-fledged adults -- that's why I'm self-employed; don't have to deal with no sucky employers. :)
How about if he had been wearing a rainbow button and an excerpt from the Fourteenth Amendment?
Especially if he had been wearing a rainbow button. One extreme is as bad as the other. Anything not allowed by corporate management falls in the same boat. If the dude is insubordinate, can him (or her). Duh....
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I hope he wins enough in his lawsuit to finance his education. I know it costs Home Depot a huge amount to support Atheists.
Everyone should sue for what they are too lazy to work for, right?
He was asked nicely to remove the button. When he refused it was not a patriotic religious act, it was insubordination. He doesn't have a chance of winning unless the jury is entirely teabagging Glenn Beck fans.
This guy was an award winning employee, not someone too lazy to work.
In my opinion, it was a de facto standard religious action that can not legally be discriminated against. The fact that Home Depot tried to head off this problem before it happened is negated by the management decision to allow the button for a year. I guess we'll see what the court says.
Above Anitadick said what if he had been wearing a rainbow button. Check my answer. Insubordination is insubordination regardless of the cause. If he was wearing a St. Patrick's Day button it would have been the same.
My point was that Irish are not a protected class. I'm not sure about Gays and practicing Theists are a protected class.
Backlash is never pleasant. This is probably all about reaction to the Christian right ramming their beliefs down everyone's throats with a hydraulic piston.
"Backlash is never pleasant." You are absolutely right. I've seen ugly stuff on both sides all over the net.
I don't think it's ALL about either side's actions. There is enough blame to go around.
Exactly, just like my questions are being deleted by the religious extremist here.
Now I am intrigued, they support Atheist over theist?
When did they claim to support people who wear, "There is no God" buttons? Unless you can give references I will assume you have made this up.
Was that for me?
Dunno. What did you mean, "they support Atheist over Theist"?
I was talking about the amount of good will and sales lost over this one action. Most Christians that wrote in to other outlets said something to the effect, "I guess they don't want my kind in there. The money I have says In God We Trust. They probably want it over at Lowes."
There was no big call for a boycot. Just a realization that we are not welcome there.
Well, I shop at Lowes anyway -- the is no Home Depot in this town. :-)
Bullshit! You, as a customer are welcome to wear your religious or political buttons in the store. And if I had been working there I would have supported the guy by wearing a badge saying something like "Your Friendly Neighborhood Anti-Christ" or "God Loves You! Some restrictions may apply..." button. Or some of the others that can be found here... http://evolvefish.com/fish/buttons-ss2.html
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[2 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyI agree.
If he reads the bible in his own time I think that would be absolutely fine. The dress code is up to the store owners, but I would have had no problem being helped by this man, if I had been a customer to the store. He could well be an expert at carpentry...
If his religion is Islam it is okay with you if he unrolls his prayer carpet every day at 5pm and says his prayers? I bet if you were an employee at that store you would have a problem with it even if the dude was on his break.
With me it would be fine, I do not oppose his freedom to believe what he wants, I oppose religious extremist feeling compelled to push their religion onto others! If I was working there I would even offer to swap breaks with him so he could pray at the specified times. I would work Sundays so Christians wouldn't have to work on the Sabbath, but when they tell others have to pray or can't work Sunday's then I would get upset.
Well, then, you're not the hard nose I had you pegged as after your two week spree of "let's rile the Christians" polls.
Unlike the (religious) extremist I am not in favor of controlling thought. It is why I am so pissed off with them. Just because I think their religions are pure fantasy it does not mean I oppose their right to belief in them. I oppose that they want to teach those in public schools and base laws on them.
P.S. I do not pick on Christians only, I try to question the ideas of all theist and (non theists) equally.
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