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It would be nice if you could leave comments this is for school no names will be used only the pole and some coments if you put a note at the end saying I can use your comment thank you and sorry if theres a lot of missed spelled words. thank you for your time!:)
In this country, the government will make no laws abridging or endorsing any type of religion. Schools are an instrument of the state. Schools shall not, nor should they ever be, used for prayer in any way, shape or form.
Introducing a "quiet time," on the surface, seems like a fair way to indulge those who wish to pray. People may use it to pray, or NOT use it to pray. It SEEMS like free will, to be used or not used.
But the problem is children must have this "quiet time to pray or not pray" explained to them. By a school authority. They must explain that "quiet is needed" for those who wish to pray, and they have to keep their big mouths shut so others can pray properly. Even creating a special "quiet time" once kids are past the age of needing a nap in the middle of the afternoon tells kids that "something is up" and something else is really going on. And the "prayer" factor is going to come up. Fast.
Teachers, principals, coaches, superintendents, school secretaries, etc., are all government employees. For a government employee to even MENTION "prayer" while exercising authority over children is wrong. It is the GOVERNMENT telling kids to pray (or not) and/or respect others who wish to pray. And if one kid runs his mouth, not respecting others who WISH to pray, and is disciplined for it - the GOVERNMENT is punishing a citizen for not respecting "quite time/prayer time." That is tantamount to the government endorsing religion.
Nope. It should NOT be allowed under the United States Constitution.
Now, if you wish to pray, more power to you. You'll have to get together either before OR after school, and NOT on school property (government property) to pray. Sorry if it's not convenient but neither Jesus nor God meant for religion to be "convenient."
[2 points]3 years ago by sillynillyReplyEdited 3 years ago by sillynilly
Prayer is best conducted at church or at home. If students feel the need to pray at school, they may do so in their own free time, but the school should not be responsible for "arranging" a time for them to do it.
no - school is for learning. Prayer, quiet time, meditation. etc if for home. If a faith system mandates that a student pray at certain times, then they should be allowed to leave class and attend a special prayer room.
Nope - I'm against even allowing that. It's on school property, students are excepted from classroom time (or time when control is exerted over other students). That is government endorsing religion.
This is why we allow religious institutions to offer education, without public funding, in this country. When Bush began "school vouchers" to allow parents to direct public funds to religious institutions that were going to offer religious instructions to students - I was deeply against it.
If religious people who wish to exercise freedom of religion in this country are WORRIED about the future of their freedom to do so - they would refuse these public funding vouchers. All a government has to do is threaten to withdraw funds once the school has become dependent on them - and you'll have the religious school in a mess. Budgets will have to be slashed OR they will have to follow government directives. So much for "freedom of religion." And it was BUSH who made that control of religion possible. Sheer foolishness on everyone's part.
People can pray anytime, anywhere, as long as it is invisible and inaudible, so as not to disturb anybody. What's with the insistence on public prayer?
Mandatory prayer at school shouldn't even be contemplated. If kids WANT to pray at school by their own choice, then they can spend recess on their knees instead of having fun and getting exercise like all the other kids.
[2 points]3 years ago by HauliReplyEdited 3 years ago by Hauli
It would be nice if you could leave comments this is for school no names will be used only the pole and some coments if you put a note at the end saying I can use your comment thank you and sorry if theres a lot of missed spelled words. thank you for your time!:)
In this country, the government will make no laws abridging or endorsing any type of religion. Schools are an instrument of the state. Schools shall not, nor should they ever be, used for prayer in any way, shape or form.
Introducing a "quiet time," on the surface, seems like a fair way to indulge those who wish to pray. People may use it to pray, or NOT use it to pray. It SEEMS like free will, to be used or not used.
But the problem is children must have this "quiet time to pray or not pray" explained to them. By a school authority. They must explain that "quiet is needed" for those who wish to pray, and they have to keep their big mouths shut so others can pray properly. Even creating a special "quiet time" once kids are past the age of needing a nap in the middle of the afternoon tells kids that "something is up" and something else is really going on. And the "prayer" factor is going to come up. Fast.
Teachers, principals, coaches, superintendents, school secretaries, etc., are all government employees. For a government employee to even MENTION "prayer" while exercising authority over children is wrong. It is the GOVERNMENT telling kids to pray (or not) and/or respect others who wish to pray. And if one kid runs his mouth, not respecting others who WISH to pray, and is disciplined for it - the GOVERNMENT is punishing a citizen for not respecting "quite time/prayer time." That is tantamount to the government endorsing religion.
Nope. It should NOT be allowed under the United States Constitution.
Now, if you wish to pray, more power to you. You'll have to get together either before OR after school, and NOT on school property (government property) to pray. Sorry if it's not convenient but neither Jesus nor God meant for religion to be "convenient."
Prayer is best conducted at church or at home. If students feel the need to pray at school, they may do so in their own free time, but the school should not be responsible for "arranging" a time for them to do it.
no - school is for learning. Prayer, quiet time, meditation. etc if for home. If a faith system mandates that a student pray at certain times, then they should be allowed to leave class and attend a special prayer room.
Nope - I'm against even allowing that. It's on school property, students are excepted from classroom time (or time when control is exerted over other students). That is government endorsing religion.
This is why we allow religious institutions to offer education, without public funding, in this country. When Bush began "school vouchers" to allow parents to direct public funds to religious institutions that were going to offer religious instructions to students - I was deeply against it.
If religious people who wish to exercise freedom of religion in this country are WORRIED about the future of their freedom to do so - they would refuse these public funding vouchers. All a government has to do is threaten to withdraw funds once the school has become dependent on them - and you'll have the religious school in a mess. Budgets will have to be slashed OR they will have to follow government directives. So much for "freedom of religion." And it was BUSH who made that control of religion possible. Sheer foolishness on everyone's part.
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyPeople can pray anytime, anywhere, as long as it is invisible and inaudible, so as not to disturb anybody. What's with the insistence on public prayer?
Mandatory prayer at school shouldn't even be contemplated. If kids WANT to pray at school by their own choice, then they can spend recess on their knees instead of having fun and getting exercise like all the other kids.