Ohio USA Botched an Execution.
Should Executions Stop ?
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How could that possibly be the case? When would that EVER happen? If there was no capital punishment, death row inmates would spend life in prison without parole. They aren't going to kill anybody again. At worst, the determined ones might shiv another inmate.
How could you ever know that? It's not even possible to measure that. Yet we know now that capital punishment does kill innocent people. No "may" about it, it DOES.
So it's better to kill innocent people this way, and support a system that "may, repeat may" deter others from ... killing innocent people? That's fucked up logic, man.
If you support not killing innocent people, why don't you support doing something that we KNOW works - stopping capital punishment?
This is hardly an unusual occurrence. A large number of, if not most, executions are botched. All ways of killing someone are horrific. The only advantage lethal injection has is that, most of the time, you manage to paralyse the victim so you can't tell how horrific it is.
I agree with you on the fact that executions have a certain degree of "horrificness" to them. There is not good way to kill a person by definition. Decapitation or hanging, in my opinion, would be MORE humane than lethal injection but would never be considered completely humane. However there are instances where I personally feel that no matter how horrific the punishment may be it should still be carried out.
You can find out more about this subject in a book titled "Better" by Atul Gawande. In a chapter called "The Doctors of the Death Chamber," he recounts interviews done with doctors who have assisted in executions.
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Every leathal injection should be attended by a guard with a gun as a redudant safety mechanism to see that the judegment is carried out.
If the attending phyisican fails to perform his duty, the guard does it the old fashioned way and puts a bullet in the convicts brain.
Hey, what a concept! Kinda like how Smith and Hickok back=stopped each other when they killed the Clutters.
I thought you were about to say, "The guard does it the old fashioned way and puts a bullet in the Phyisican."
There are good arguments both for and against the death penalty. For years I have unsuccessfully been trying to decide which is the stronger.
So innocent people being killed is not compelling enough for you?
Not if , IF, executing people prevents a much larger number of innocent people being murdered.
How could that possibly be the case? When would that EVER happen? If there was no capital punishment, death row inmates would spend life in prison without parole. They aren't going to kill anybody again. At worst, the determined ones might shiv another inmate.
But the existence of executions may, repeat may, deter others from killing people.
How could you ever know that? It's not even possible to measure that. Yet we know now that capital punishment does kill innocent people. No "may" about it, it DOES.
So it's better to kill innocent people this way, and support a system that "may, repeat may" deter others from ... killing innocent people? That's fucked up logic, man.
If you support not killing innocent people, why don't you support doing something that we KNOW works - stopping capital punishment?
I don't 'know' that. Thats why I said MAY and tried to emphasise the word.
The last execution in Sweden was, I think, well over a hundred years ago - so my 'support' for abolition is not called for.
Imo the reason that the death penalty still exists in the US is because your pols are more responsive to public opinion than those in Europe.
I'll ask you again: it's better to kill innocent people by support a system that "may, repeat may" deter others from ... killing innocent people?
A good question to which I have no answer. I'll never be called to vote on it but if I was I'ld probably support the position that you hold.
This is hardly an unusual occurrence. A large number of, if not most, executions are botched. All ways of killing someone are horrific. The only advantage lethal injection has is that, most of the time, you manage to paralyse the victim so you can't tell how horrific it is.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/some-examples-post-furman-botched-executions
I agree with you on the fact that executions have a certain degree of "horrificness" to them. There is not good way to kill a person by definition. Decapitation or hanging, in my opinion, would be MORE humane than lethal injection but would never be considered completely humane. However there are instances where I personally feel that no matter how horrific the punishment may be it should still be carried out.
You can find out more about this subject in a book titled "Better" by Atul Gawande. In a chapter called "The Doctors of the Death Chamber," he recounts interviews done with doctors who have assisted in executions.
That's sort of like saying, Driver runs over small child. Should driving stop?