Obama is worthier of the Peace Prize than those who were nominated.
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Consider that a week or so before award, a war between Israel and Iran was being widely predicted to be imminent, and Obama appears to be responsible for getting them to step back from the brink. The award seems reasonable to me.
That's the thing I keep asking. If not Obama, then who? No one has mentioned anyone more deserving (or anyone at all for that matter).
The only other person I thought of was Mir-Hossein Mousavi from Iran, but he didn't really make a big splash until the June elections, and as conservatives have memorized and are quick to point out, the nominations were closed in February. Mousavi is a likely contender for next year, though.
Sima Samar: women's rights activist in Afghanistan: "With dogged persistence and at great personal risk, she kept her schools and clinics open in Afghanistan even during the most repressive days of the Taliban regime, whose laws prohibited the education of girls past the age of eight. When the Taliban fell, Samar returned to Kabul and accepted the post of Minister for Women's Affairs."
Ingrid Betancourt: French-Colombian ex-hostage held for six years.
"Dr. Denis Mukwege: Doctor, founder and head of Panzi Hospital in Bukavu, Democratic Republic of Congo. He has dedicated his life to helping Congolese women and girls who are victims of gang rape and brutal sexual violence."
Handicap International and Cluster Munition Coalition: "These organizations are recognized for their consistently serious efforts to clean up cluster bombs, also known as land mines. Innocent civilians are regularly killed worldwide because the unseen bombs explode when stepped upon."
"Hu Jia, a human rights activist and an outspoken critic of the Chinese government, who was sentenced last year to a three-and-a-half-year prison term for 'inciting subversion of state power.'"
"Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China's communist system. He now lives in the United States."
Sure, those are good considerations. Would you say that any of these people have done more to advance the cause of international peace than Obama? If you were giving it an honest assessment, that is, and not just finding any excuse to be anti-Obama? Which I think has been the general response, and which you certainly do at every possible opportunity.
I saw that same article that you're referencing here, claiming that these were other nominees, and I wondered how they could possibly make that claim, since the nominee list is kept secret for 50 years.
[2 points]40 days ago by translateReplyEdited 40 days ago by translate
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I haven't seen the list, so Undecided.
I also don't particularly care, so if a link were provided, I likely wouldn't bother to look.
"I don't know: who else was nominated?"
If you wouldn't look, why bother asking as part of your argument?
I'd read it if you posted it, but I couldn't be bothered to click a link.
Yeah... that RSI from clicking the mouse is a real killer, isn't it.
Consider that a week or so before award, a war between Israel and Iran was being widely predicted to be imminent, and Obama appears to be responsible for getting them to step back from the brink. The award seems reasonable to me.
That's the thing I keep asking. If not Obama, then who? No one has mentioned anyone more deserving (or anyone at all for that matter).
The only other person I thought of was Mir-Hossein Mousavi from Iran, but he didn't really make a big splash until the June elections, and as conservatives have memorized and are quick to point out, the nominations were closed in February. Mousavi is a likely contender for next year, though.
Hey "translate" how about these instead of Obama.
Sima Samar: women's rights activist in Afghanistan: "With dogged persistence and at great personal risk, she kept her schools and clinics open in Afghanistan even during the most repressive days of the Taliban regime, whose laws prohibited the education of girls past the age of eight. When the Taliban fell, Samar returned to Kabul and accepted the post of Minister for Women's Affairs."
Ingrid Betancourt: French-Colombian ex-hostage held for six years.
"Dr. Denis Mukwege: Doctor, founder and head of Panzi Hospital in Bukavu, Democratic Republic of Congo. He has dedicated his life to helping Congolese women and girls who are victims of gang rape and brutal sexual violence."
Handicap International and Cluster Munition Coalition: "These organizations are recognized for their consistently serious efforts to clean up cluster bombs, also known as land mines. Innocent civilians are regularly killed worldwide because the unseen bombs explode when stepped upon."
"Hu Jia, a human rights activist and an outspoken critic of the Chinese government, who was sentenced last year to a three-and-a-half-year prison term for 'inciting subversion of state power.'"
"Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China's communist system. He now lives in the United States."
???????
Any of those would work.
Sure, those are good considerations. Would you say that any of these people have done more to advance the cause of international peace than Obama? If you were giving it an honest assessment, that is, and not just finding any excuse to be anti-Obama? Which I think has been the general response, and which you certainly do at every possible opportunity.
I saw that same article that you're referencing here, claiming that these were other nominees, and I wondered how they could possibly make that claim, since the nominee list is kept secret for 50 years.
the nominee list is a secret for 50 years, so in 2059, this question would be relevant, til then we have no way of knowing
I heard the choices were President Obama or a second (posthumous) Peace Prize for Yasser Arafat. So,I dont know...maybe they got the right guy.
You're right, you don't know. Nobel does not award posthumous prizes.
Thats WHY Obama won......