It is illogical for Christian's to demand proof from atheists and scientists without providing any for their beliefs?
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As the question is posted I have to vote undecided. The demand for proof should be required when we want to impose laws. But we should all be able to believe in whatever we want no matter how ridiculous this might seem to others.
As long as those beliefs don't lead to you hurting someone else or imposing unjust laws, it IS rather important that such freedom exists.
It's also important that others be allowed to call you a fucking moron, or that your soul is going to hell, or whatever, so long as they don't hurt you in any real way (hurt feelings don't count).
I didn't ask why freedom of religion is important, but why the ABILITY to believe absurdities should be important. If I demand that religious people defend their beliefs, I'm only challenging their intellects - not their freedom.
The ability to believe absurdities is a side-effect of our evolved brains, I would think. It's not something that could be outlawed or banned or even restricted socially.
It's like the ability to do math in your head.
Now that I'm really thinking about it, it has a direct correlation to your imagination (not that having an imagination means that you must therefore inevitably believe in something absurd, but that you must have an imagination in order to do so).
I've never said anything about outlawing anything. I've no idea where you got that impression.
But I don't agree that it's impossible to restrict people's beliefs socially. We can do that by reasoning with people, by speaking up when unacceptable beliefs (like racism) are voiced, and by ridiculing beliefs that are, well, ridiculous.
The big problem with ridicule is that they whip out scriptures like, "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake..." (MAT 5:10) and point to your ridicule as further proof that they are correct. Black Orchid does it all the time.
"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."
I was unaware that we were herding evangelicals into concentration camps and gassing them to death to attempt to wipe them out, as appealing as that may be to some. PR is an ass.
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[3 points] 159 days ago by deleted user ReplyAs the question is posted I have to vote undecided. The demand for proof should be required when we want to impose laws. But we should all be able to believe in whatever we want no matter how ridiculous this might seem to others.
Why should we be able to believe in whatever we want? Is the ability to believe absurdities an important one?
Yes, actually, it is.
As long as those beliefs don't lead to you hurting someone else or imposing unjust laws, it IS rather important that such freedom exists.
It's also important that others be allowed to call you a fucking moron, or that your soul is going to hell, or whatever, so long as they don't hurt you in any real way (hurt feelings don't count).
I didn't ask why freedom of religion is important, but why the ABILITY to believe absurdities should be important. If I demand that religious people defend their beliefs, I'm only challenging their intellects - not their freedom.
The ability to believe absurdities is a side-effect of our evolved brains, I would think. It's not something that could be outlawed or banned or even restricted socially.
It's like the ability to do math in your head.
Now that I'm really thinking about it, it has a direct correlation to your imagination (not that having an imagination means that you must therefore inevitably believe in something absurd, but that you must have an imagination in order to do so).
I've never said anything about outlawing anything. I've no idea where you got that impression.
But I don't agree that it's impossible to restrict people's beliefs socially. We can do that by reasoning with people, by speaking up when unacceptable beliefs (like racism) are voiced, and by ridiculing beliefs that are, well, ridiculous.
The big problem with ridicule is that they whip out scriptures like, "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake..." (MAT 5:10) and point to your ridicule as further proof that they are correct. Black Orchid does it all the time.
"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."
- Pat Robertson
Okay... you win. That really IS ridiculous. ;o)
I was unaware that we were herding evangelicals into concentration camps and gassing them to death to attempt to wipe them out, as appealing as that may be to some. PR is an ass.
The freedom of thought is a very important one. Imposing what people are allowed to think is unenforceable anyway (for now).
Wow, we get to agree on one.
It is a miracle...
amen
Unfortunately, many want to revisit laws such as Roe vs Wade citing religious convictions, and the rest of us are dragged along.
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[2 points] 159 days ago by deleted user ReplyWhen you have been thoroughly indoctrinated (brainwashed) logic is no longer relevant.
Demand proof of what?
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[2 points] 159 days ago by deleted user ReplyProof of what? If you mean proof that "Only the Righteous can command such steely conviction and moral power," then yes, it is illogical.
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[2 points] 159 days ago by deleted user Reply