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PLEASE HOLD: More than 43,000 patients had to wait outside in ambulances

for at least an hour last year before they could be seen in Britain's

National Health Service emergency rooms. Standards require that

patients must been seen within four hours when they arrive at an

emergency room, so when busy, patients must wait outside so the clock

doesn't start ticking. A Department of Health spokesman shrugged off

the report. "These figures must be seen in the context of the 4.3

million patient journeys undertaken by emergency vehicles," he said.

(London Daily Mail) ...Shortage of emergency room staff, obvious.

Excess of ambulance crews, less obvious.

Google search "ambulance waits in the US". You're in just as bad a situation as they are in Britain. The only difference is in Britain they don't ask the person collapsed on the floor how they plan to pay for the trip before they put them on the gurney.

I wasn't asked to pay when I called and asked NOT to be transported. they came out 35 miles anyway in case I needed them !

I researched your Canadian health care system. Searched wait times for various surgeries....weeks to months for a heart by-pass. Same for a new knee.

Although in Canada, no matter your income, you will get care. No families get forced into bankruptcy because someone got sick and their insurance company decided they didn't want to cover. Health care is much less of a consumer product here. Is 1 out of every 2 commercials in the US an ad for some magic pill? The 23 side effects rhymed off in 10 seconds just cracks me up.

Good points. In the USA the only way to have good healthcare is if you're wealthy, if you have a good job with good healthcare benefits, if you're disabled or on social security and have supplemental insurance to pay the co-pays and the extra 20% or whatever, or you're selfemployed and are doing well enough to pay for health insurance on your own or you have a spouse that's employed in a "real job" who can put you on his/her plan.

People that work several part-time jobs, people that work on a cash only basis, day laborers, and people in many other occupations that are unable to get good insurance risk losing everything if the get a major illness. In many cases prison inmates get better health care than many working people. Maybe that is why American prisons are the most crowded prisons in the world, because it's one place the down and out can often get better healthcare than they could in the free world.

Canada isn't perfect by any means. But apparently, little, if anything, has changed since the Commonwealth Fund revealed the downbeat results of its last "scorecard" rating the abysmal performance of America's health care system. The latest report by the foundation found, once again, that Americans spend more for mediocre and inefficient health care than do New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Germany and the UK.

To add insult on top of preventable injury or, in some cases, death, the most expensive health care system in the world ranked at the bottom when it comes to outcomes, efficiency, equity, access and quality. Overall, Germany and the UK topped the list, with Canada and the Unites States bringing up the rear. Also worth noting here is that America spends close to three times as much for its mediocre approach to health per capita ($6,102) annually than does New Zealand ($2,083) and almost twice as much as Canada ($3,165).