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Its existence was, and in some ways still is, one of the biggest controversies the Catholic Church ever wrestled with. Here is a link that gives an overview not only of free will in CAtholic, but also in pagan thought:
I understand that the philosophical concept is something that organized religions have to deal with... but "free will" in and of itself is not a "religion." It has no dogma, no hierarchy, no organization, no sacred text.
Thanks for the links. I've had a look through them. I'm sure that much of ancient thought concerning religious principles tended towards a concept of fate. Most people go down the age old preference rails without thinking too greatly about it. Everyday life is like that. Do you think deeply upon every action? Nevertheless I do believe free choices are possible. I find the concept of living in a universe without free will too cold to accept. The argument in favour of free will must be one of utility. It is impossible to argue in favour of moral choices without it. Our experience of life is largely made a nonsense of, without acceptance of this concept. I have no proof of my free will. Yet I accept it because the alternative is unacceptable. Is this similar to the principle of religious thought?
That's really not a Yes/No question.
None of the question formats here are really up to the task of answering this one.
You have just demonstrated the other possibility. Please. I would like comments on this one.
O.K.
I always thought Crowley was a nutter.
"Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law?" C'mon, that's the religious equivalent of being Republican. "NO. MINE."
Although I suspect that isn't quite what you meant by your question, I do wonder how you keep it from ending up there?
The philosophy of the two-year-old.
PS--comments made for the purpose of eliciting discussion, not as a personal attack.
Personally, I have found you to be reasoned and thoughtful, and suspect I would like to know you in person.
No religion is great or in the least necessary.
I have to agree...but if wishes were fishes, we would all cast nets, lol.
Free Willy?
You just keep your willy in your pants where it belongs, Mister!
Huh?
How does "free will" fit the definition of a religion? Philosophy maybe... not religion.
Its existence was, and in some ways still is, one of the biggest controversies the Catholic Church ever wrestled with. Here is a link that gives an overview not only of free will in CAtholic, but also in pagan thought:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06259a.htm
And then there are the Calvinists and other pre-destinationers. *shudder*
an interesting discussion of the high points can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(Calvinism)
I understand that the philosophical concept is something that organized religions have to deal with... but "free will" in and of itself is not a "religion." It has no dogma, no hierarchy, no organization, no sacred text.
Thanks for the links. I've had a look through them. I'm sure that much of ancient thought concerning religious principles tended towards a concept of fate. Most people go down the age old preference rails without thinking too greatly about it. Everyday life is like that. Do you think deeply upon every action? Nevertheless I do believe free choices are possible. I find the concept of living in a universe without free will too cold to accept. The argument in favour of free will must be one of utility. It is impossible to argue in favour of moral choices without it. Our experience of life is largely made a nonsense of, without acceptance of this concept. I have no proof of my free will. Yet I accept it because the alternative is unacceptable. Is this similar to the principle of religious thought?