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You will find there are more liberal socialists on this website than conservatives by about 1 to 7. Believe me, I know because they will not let a decent conservative question/remark/comment thru. When you can refute their remarks they click you down so your questions/comments do not show. It is the typical 'free-speech-is-ok-if-you-speak-socialism' attitude that most Democraps have...
You are exactly right. I wish they would get rid of the "click down" thing and just let everyones comments be seen,, but that is not what "liberals" do--they love silencing the opposition.
That;s hilarious. I wasn't able to get a question up for more than hour for WEEKS because of TruJohnBlack's little coterie of alternate personalities. And I know tow people who routinely point me up because of JohnBlackBlu's utterly predictable pointing me down.
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Yah, all four of you losers choose the sissy's way out - can't refute good, honest facts so you mark me down - it is the liberal's way of doing everything - if you can't argue with them, make them disappear... LOL! Nothing new with that!
Well I doubt what you are saying about the 1 to 7 ratio. I know some people will click things down they do not agree with, and I think it is both "liberals" and "conservatives" who are to blame here. I think that is childish behaviour. I will usually agree with the liberal point of view on things but I do not click down a conservative view. I will only click things down when I find them offensive for instance. When things are just stupid I leave them it is the poster that looks stupid that way not me...And there are some on this site who make almost nothing but stupid / offensive remarks those I usually ignore completely.
What's childish about it? I don't understand that. I've seen other people complain about downvoting comments, saying it's abridging freedom of speech and other crap like that. None of that makes sense to me. The function is provided, and you can use it (or not) however you want to. But what's with being judgmental about how others use it? Why is someone childish just because they choose to use a provided function in a different way than someone else does?
I just really don't get that, sorry. Everyone has their own reasons for voting things up or down, what difference does it make what those reasons are?
Honestly I think it's a cop-out. Some people just use that as an excuse to complain about people who disagree with them. If it wasn't the downvote it would be something else.
[1 point]14 days ago by translateReplyEdited 14 days ago by translate
I did not say people are childish because they use the vote down function, I said I think it is childish to do so solely for having a different opinion than the one expressed. The fact that the option is provided does not make the action any less childish. I think this website is for discussion so people should be able to read each others opinions. And yes I am judgmental about that, I do label it childish to just do away with everything you don't like instead of coming with some good arguments. I could also have said it is couwardous.
[3 points]14 days ago by pollewopReplyEdited 14 days ago by pollewop
Why is it childish? It's just using a function the site provides without suggestion for its use other than "vote this comment down". I don't see how that could be considered childish or cowardly or "doing away" with anything. And it's not an exclusive act - it's not an "instead" situation, there's no requirement to only click an arrow OR add a comment. You can do both, and I'm sure many people do just that.
It's just clicking a downward-pointing arrow. Nothing more than that. Why embellish it with so much emotional significance?
I don't mean to sound challenging to you here, but I asked you specifically because I find I usually agree with your views, and you generally express yourself very well. And seeing that you expressed this opinion that, to me seems extremely strange, I was hoping you could explain it in a way that makes sense.
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Gezus H. Cripes, asshole, you are one hard headed, argumentative prick, ya know that? Go have a beer or take you meds or something - you are going to have a fracking heart attack, you dumb ass, just keep it up.
Well, I'm sorry I do not seem to make much sense to you here, I had hoped I had expressed it similarly well as with other remarks. I also think that generally I tend to agree with your remarks so I probably find it just as much surprising to see you are defending the opposite point of view here.
It is difficult to find another, more clear way to explain my arguments. Yes the down vote is a function provided by this site. Does that automatically mean that each and every way you can use that function is neutral? No, not in my opinion. You can legally buy a gun to hunt, but you can do a lot of things with a gun which are illegal and some will even say legal hunting itself is moraly wrong.
So I judge that downvoting for the sole reason that you disagree with an opinion is childish. I think debate is better and you avoid that by simply downvoting. Even more so because when a remark gets voted below zero is disappears from view and thus hampers further discussion.
Now the remark above mine by this darkflower person is a clear examply of a comment that I happily vote down. It is abusive and not at all helping the discussion or even providing any arguments.
Well that's total horse shit, of course. Your numbers assume that everyone who disagrees with you and votes you down must be a liberal, and that's obviously not true. I tried to tell you before, fuckface, you have some double agents on your little mailing list there. Even some of the conservatives here have had enough of you.
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Ya know what, pondscum, I don't give a shet what you think one way or the other! Don't even comment on my comments, you are just a filthy mouthed dirtbag that has nothing else to do but harass people who don't march to your drummer. Just take a long walk off a short pier.
It's my opinion people like to think this site is middle-of-the-road so some will probably vote up one side or down one side just to make it look more middle-of-the-road. :)
That won't tell you how biased the *website* is, only how biased the *respondents* are. Which is not the same thing. Nor is it the same thing as the membership being biased.
This question is answerable, but completely useless for obtaining meaningful information.
I don't find Liberal and Conservative to carry any information. They are not really in opposition to each other. It's perfectly possible to be a conservative liberal or a liberal conservative.
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You will find there are more liberal socialists on this website than conservatives by about 1 to 7. Believe me, I know because they will not let a decent conservative question/remark/comment thru. When you can refute their remarks they click you down so your questions/comments do not show. It is the typical 'free-speech-is-ok-if-you-speak-socialism' attitude that most Democraps have...
You are exactly right. I wish they would get rid of the "click down" thing and just let everyones comments be seen,, but that is not what "liberals" do--they love silencing the opposition.
Right because when a comment is downvoted there is NO WAY TO SEE IT ever after that, so you're totally silenced. Give me a break.
If you don't like it, that's fine, but using it like it's some rallying cry against those evil Libruls is fucking bullshit.
That;s hilarious. I wasn't able to get a question up for more than hour for WEEKS because of TruJohnBlack's little coterie of alternate personalities. And I know tow people who routinely point me up because of JohnBlackBlu's utterly predictable pointing me down.
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Again you are full of shet! Just saying something like that does not make it true. Prove it! Then tell me you don't mark me down you liar!
Dauguy does not mark you down MOST of the time, I mark you down ALL of the time!
And me
Me three
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Yah, all four of you losers choose the sissy's way out - can't refute good, honest facts so you mark me down - it is the liberal's way of doing everything - if you can't argue with them, make them disappear... LOL! Nothing new with that!
"if you can't argue with them, make them disappear... LOL!"
That's how Nazi's did it... Not an implication, just an observation.
Yawn
Well I doubt what you are saying about the 1 to 7 ratio. I know some people will click things down they do not agree with, and I think it is both "liberals" and "conservatives" who are to blame here. I think that is childish behaviour. I will usually agree with the liberal point of view on things but I do not click down a conservative view. I will only click things down when I find them offensive for instance. When things are just stupid I leave them it is the poster that looks stupid that way not me...And there are some on this site who make almost nothing but stupid / offensive remarks those I usually ignore completely.
What's childish about it? I don't understand that. I've seen other people complain about downvoting comments, saying it's abridging freedom of speech and other crap like that. None of that makes sense to me. The function is provided, and you can use it (or not) however you want to. But what's with being judgmental about how others use it? Why is someone childish just because they choose to use a provided function in a different way than someone else does?
I just really don't get that, sorry. Everyone has their own reasons for voting things up or down, what difference does it make what those reasons are?
Honestly I think it's a cop-out. Some people just use that as an excuse to complain about people who disagree with them. If it wasn't the downvote it would be something else.
I did not say people are childish because they use the vote down function, I said I think it is childish to do so solely for having a different opinion than the one expressed. The fact that the option is provided does not make the action any less childish. I think this website is for discussion so people should be able to read each others opinions. And yes I am judgmental about that, I do label it childish to just do away with everything you don't like instead of coming with some good arguments. I could also have said it is couwardous.
Why is it childish? It's just using a function the site provides without suggestion for its use other than "vote this comment down". I don't see how that could be considered childish or cowardly or "doing away" with anything. And it's not an exclusive act - it's not an "instead" situation, there's no requirement to only click an arrow OR add a comment. You can do both, and I'm sure many people do just that.
It's just clicking a downward-pointing arrow. Nothing more than that. Why embellish it with so much emotional significance?
I don't mean to sound challenging to you here, but I asked you specifically because I find I usually agree with your views, and you generally express yourself very well. And seeing that you expressed this opinion that, to me seems extremely strange, I was hoping you could explain it in a way that makes sense.
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Gezus H. Cripes, asshole, you are one hard headed, argumentative prick, ya know that? Go have a beer or take you meds or something - you are going to have a fracking heart attack, you dumb ass, just keep it up.
Well, I'm sorry I do not seem to make much sense to you here, I had hoped I had expressed it similarly well as with other remarks. I also think that generally I tend to agree with your remarks so I probably find it just as much surprising to see you are defending the opposite point of view here.
It is difficult to find another, more clear way to explain my arguments. Yes the down vote is a function provided by this site. Does that automatically mean that each and every way you can use that function is neutral? No, not in my opinion. You can legally buy a gun to hunt, but you can do a lot of things with a gun which are illegal and some will even say legal hunting itself is moraly wrong.
So I judge that downvoting for the sole reason that you disagree with an opinion is childish. I think debate is better and you avoid that by simply downvoting. Even more so because when a remark gets voted below zero is disappears from view and thus hampers further discussion.
Now the remark above mine by this darkflower person is a clear examply of a comment that I happily vote down. It is abusive and not at all helping the discussion or even providing any arguments.
Well that's total horse shit, of course. Your numbers assume that everyone who disagrees with you and votes you down must be a liberal, and that's obviously not true. I tried to tell you before, fuckface, you have some double agents on your little mailing list there. Even some of the conservatives here have had enough of you.
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Ya know what, pondscum, I don't give a shet what you think one way or the other! Don't even comment on my comments, you are just a filthy mouthed dirtbag that has nothing else to do but harass people who don't march to your drummer. Just take a long walk off a short pier.
Perhaps you would have gotten a better picture if you had more options to choose from.
It's my opinion people like to think this site is middle-of-the-road so some will probably vote up one side or down one side just to make it look more middle-of-the-road. :)
You're probably right my friend, I'd eat my hat if what you said isn't true.
That won't tell you how biased the *website* is, only how biased the *respondents* are. Which is not the same thing. Nor is it the same thing as the membership being biased.
This question is answerable, but completely useless for obtaining meaningful information.
I don't find Liberal and Conservative to carry any information. They are not really in opposition to each other. It's perfectly possible to be a conservative liberal or a liberal conservative.
What's the difference?
Yes indeed. I second this question.
I smell new question material!