| I'm a teacher: Often kids are disrespectful and don't want to learn anything (they know it all). Why is this so prevalent? |
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I'm a teacher: Often kids are disrespectful and don't want to learn anything (they know it all). Why is this so prevalent?
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Asked 3 years ago
by worldmodelcoach  United States |
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With offensive choices like that, I'm glad you're not teaching my kids.
Obviously, your not a teacher! Of course, not all kids act this way. Also, not all kids are treated like dummies either.
And just to let you know, some of my "A" students now work at gas stations for minimum wage.
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[2 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyExcellent point. My point exactly! The question is start a discussion for a problem that I hope to find a solution for.
Sorry, I didn't know that you were a teacher also.
Would be helpful if I knew what age group we are talking about...an answer for middle-school aged kids would be different from an answer for high-school students. And I doubt if any of the above apply.
Americans hate and fear education and knowledge, and their kids pick up on that.
TV rots their little minds long before the schools have a shot at them. It also provides role models that emphasize bad behavior.
School rarely offers anything truly educational that would foster independent thinking, learning and discovery, but instead insists on a grind of memorization that must be memorized, regurgitated, and forgotten as quickly as possible.
The links between all knowledge that ultimately make it relevant to everyday life are never shown, because that would require a breadth of knowledge in teachers. This is NOT something that is selected for in hiring practices.
I agree except for one part. Teachers have to teach what's given in order for kids to pass standardized tests.
They don't have the authority (or time) to making the relative links to the material for fear of being punished, or fired. The system is set up this way for a reason I did not want to believe, but it's to continue the cycle of slavery.
No argument.
I am pretty sure that people like me are why the public school system has been allowed to deteriorate to the point of uselessness.
Time for more political activism!
Yup, agreed.
Regardless of how you feel about the system, it's your responsibility as an educator to MAKE those skills relative. You're right that there are constraints, but you have to find a way to work within those constraints to get what you need. Don't teach your students to circle the right answer. Teach them to write the questions and then answer them instead.
Also, please get over the thing about students being disrespectful. Childhood is about establishing youself as an individual and rebelling against authority. It's part of establishing identity. If you give young people respect, for the most part they give it back. And if they don't, it's nothing personal OR you might consider just asking them why because they'll usually tell you and respect you for trying to work it out like equals.
I can't make a broken system work. The system (and curriculum) and severely outdated and made for times that don't exist anymore.
It's like trying to drink water for a shattered glass. It will never happen! At least, not with the system and tools that we have today.
Most teachers are never trained to teach! They learn a subject to the point of becoming an "expert", but never learn the different styles to teaching and the different levels of learning needed in our schools. I've tried, and tried everything, and I mean everything and I've learned one:
You can't teach someone who is not willing to be taught!
It is not helpful to give advice which states "get over it" when someone is having a hard time dealing with a very real (for them) problem.
I agree with just about none of that. Being currently in school, I'm pretty positive that isn't the case.
Must be private school, 'cause otherwise they have to teach the test, not teach you how to learn.
Public school, very focused around tests actually. But I have pretty good teachers, who don't much care about "the test." Its more the administration and the parents.
Also, I was focusing mainly on the TV part.
But about teaching, I feel its silly/impossible to teach indepedent thinking. Its like teaching empathy or bravery. Its more of a character trait IMHO..
The grid of knowledge that we tend to be taught is the foundation of the independent thoughts that we create.
Also, TEACHING independent thinking seems a bit ironic.
Ironic or not, it is possible. It is a WAY of approaching learning, which can be taught, not WHAT to think, which isn't teaching, it's programming.
Oh, and you can teach empathy and bravery--they just aren't taught by rote. The best age for learning empathy is about 1 1/2 to 2. If it isn't learned then, it usually isn't learned at all. Seems to be a window in brain development related to the ability to see others a feeling beings which closes if not used, like the language acquisition window which closes around age 5-7;
Bravery is best learned as an ongoing process of self-confidence and backing up one's beliefs.
Actually, I think that making knowledge relatable for students is, increasingly, something that IS selected for hiring practices. Schools ultimately seek to prepare students for productive adulthood. The standards are an attempt to ensure that students get a rigorous curriculum that competes with those of other nations. I don't like teaching to a test, but I like that teachers are now held accountable as professional educators. And I DO think that we can continue to educate students creatively and in an engaging, interactive way, even within the structure we're given. In a perfect world, we would get more money to do it, but here in the real world, we're going to get less. So we'll have to make do, just like we always have--with planning, dedication and hard work. And that's life.
I said nothing about "preparing students for productive adulthood." That is indeed the only form of knowledge of which Americans approve, but it is NOT that of which I was speaking.
The relevance to everyday life of which I was speaking has nothing to do with vocational training, but the ability to see how what you are told and hear inter-relates with politics, advertising, moral issues, medical questions, etc etc etc.
I was speaking of the interconnections between fields and branches of knowledge. Seeing this is something that requires a broad base of education in many fields, and contributes to the ability to see the 'big picture'.
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyThe true problem arises with the laws of this country,(USA). If a teacher tries to discipline a student, parents want to sue and the teacher is in jeopardy of being fired. It's the lack of disciplin in schools that is the cause. When I was young, a pupil didn't dare cause a teacher any grief. Not only the school to fear, but parents also. It is time to return the padddle to school.
It is not just America, we have it bad over here too :(
Spare the rod and spoil the child. I hated that saying as a child, now it just seems like good common sense.
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[2 points] 3 years ago by deleted user ReplyI do not agree with your comment or use of the word often. Kids will listen in general in class if the topic is made interesting enough. I feel that teachers need to be creative in how they bring a topic to class and need to think out of the box a little more. I will say there are some of those teachers out there who are great and the kids love the class. They need to be treated with respect to give respect and also be made part of the process. I wish I had become a teacher as I know I could have had an amazine class and the kids would learn in a fun way and become excellent students.Kids these days have influence from many sources and have the same chance to agree or not as anyone,and to move on that influence or not.They need the support to help them feel good about themselves so they are confident with how they are, and make the best of what is offered to them. If you are a teacher I get a feeling from your question that you feel the kids do not like you or your class. Am I wrong in how you stated the question? If this is not clear to me then maybe part of the problem is how you state questions to your students. Kids will learn if you offer it to them in a way they find interesting. They learn as babies to want to learn more and this is not always the case when they go to school and get a mix of the good, the bad and the ugly of teachers . Some are excellent, want to be there and others are there for the pay and holidays and to self serve with the need for power and control. I am not saying you are any of the above as I do not know you, and can only comment on other teachers I have observed and gotten to know on a more personal bases.This is simply my observation and knowledge of this topic as how I read the question given.Kids are great and we can learn a lot from them. No matter what age.
Let me tell ya, it ain't all Stand and Deliver moments. But it IS wonderful and I think you're right about students being wonderful and deserving respect.
That comment only applies to certain "good" areas of our country. Teaching in the low income, strapped communities will leave you singing a different song!
I know this from personal experience. I've been in some situations where I've barely said a word and the kids got it! Then I could go through the whole book twice, with 5 different examples, and do real world experiments with no change facial expression or learning.
After, teaching I've realized that our children's priorities are different. They concentrate on unimportant media, waste time by drinking and watching TV (not all but a good majority), and ignore warnings from concerned parents.
By ignoring the chance for education, our children have placed the shackles on their own feet, and walked right into modern-day slavery! A dumb majority is easy to control. Buy this, eat that, until they are so riddled with cancer, obesity, low-wages, and low self esteem that college is not an option, and being independent of the "system" is an impossibility.
I don't like the available responses. Two say that kids are dumb and therefore disrespectful. Stupidity has several symptoms, disrespect is not a direct one in my opinion. Disrespect has to do with manners. So, kids with behavioral problems (poor impulse control, inability to self-soothe, disruptive behavior disorders, etc.), or perhaps kids that never learn to respect adults (could be red response, but if the parent teaches children to disrespect others, time with parents could be a bad thing??).
In any case, this question is obviously coming from a fellow teacher who is exasperated with his/her work experience. Don't BLAME the cause, but try to correct it. I hate the idea of a teacher calling his/her students "young and dumb" or "lacking brainpower." IF these were causes of the disrespect, then it sounds like you aren't doing your job very well(which I don't think is the case).
I totally agree. This teacher is looking for a scap goat in my mind for a lack of being able to earn the students respect due to a lack of knowledge of how to communicate with them. Its time for the teacher to take a look at how things are being done or get out of the classroom and get another job.
E. None of the above.