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You know - at one time it was, but no longer. Picking up a high powered rifle, covering yourself in deer pee - that's like calling sucker-punching a blind man a 'fair fight.' It's not.
Now, you pick up a spear, take off your shoes and run naked through the forest and bring one down - THAT'S impressive, and a sporting event.
[1 point]4 years ago by sillynillyReplyEdited 4 years ago by sillynilly
The only ones who think it isn't are the ones who haven't spent all day, or all week, traipsing up and down mountains, though fields and woods, sitting still in uncomfortable positions for hours, all for one shot if your good and lucky.
I don't hunt with a gun, but I've gone with my friends and taken my camera. It isn't easy. Many a time we have seen the deer, but you just don't have a shot. Their too far, or behind brush, or they're down wind and smell you and take off. It takes a lot of skill.
Then there are the "hunts" where they practically parade game animals in front of you for you to shoot. And baby seal hunts. Not very "sporting," IMHO.
Several familly members hunt deer and elk (moose in N America), all for eating. A sport? Maybe - but certainly an age old way of gathering meat from the forest.
It is only a sport when the other side has a roughly equal chance of doing to you before you do to it, or if both are to be judged by an outside, fixed standard. How does hunting fit either of those--unless you are hunting bare-handed, or with no more than a fire-hardened stick at best.
How about hunting Colorado style? drive the animal into a box canyon and shoot it with automatic weapons from a helicopter. If you are eating it, it is grocery shopping, not sport. If you are !Kung, it is survival, not sport. If you have a helicopter, it is slaughter, not sport.
While hunting causes one to hike and camp and traverse difficult terain, none of that sportfulness is integral. Hunting in it's essence is the killing of animals for sport, not for food. This is wrong.
Have you ever tried it? Regardless if you enjoy the activity, once you face the challenge, you understand what is required & you will consider it a sport.
Most hunters love & appreciate nature and want to preserve the habitat and the animals. Don't confuse hunting with rednecks going wild. Research what Ducks Unlimited has done over the years.
[1 point]4 years ago by bankertim99ReplyEdited 4 years ago by bankertim99
Correct. It's how the early explorers, campers, tribal savages, poor people, people in a few categories not listed here, and also how non-human animals find food.
Why would any creature kill another creature and just do it for, uh, "fun"? Pretty damn sick if you ask me. Why not just play competitive sports or join the armed forces?
[1 point]4 years ago by ChipmonkReplyEdited 4 years ago by Chipmonk
Why would any creature kill another creature and just do it for, uh, "fun"? Pretty damn sick if you ask me-----isn't that what us Humans are doing to each other???
When I go fishing I take them home and eat them. I only throw them back if they're so small there'd be nothing left after you clean them. But I know people personally that regularly throw back fish big enough to feed a family of four. I don't get it. Why make them squirm and try to get away if you don't need the food?
if done in a sporting manner it is. I hunt. I don't have heads on my walls, I eat what I shoot. yes we have rifles/shotguns/bows, but if you hunt with proper discipline and respect for your quarry, it is indeed a sport. i don't use lures/decoys/scents. One could say that the weapon is one heck of an equalizer, but the sport is in not relying on technology and the latest gadgets but one on one, using woodcraft alone. it is such an emotional issue for some that a logical discussion is impossible. i won't apologize for it, I am proud I can do it, and know that come what may, my children and I will eat.
Ditto. Actually better than buying meat in a supermarket, you know what the animal goes through. Animals eat to survive, so do humans. It's leaving them to die and rot that I'm against.
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[2 points] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyYou know - at one time it was, but no longer. Picking up a high powered rifle, covering yourself in deer pee - that's like calling sucker-punching a blind man a 'fair fight.' It's not.
Now, you pick up a spear, take off your shoes and run naked through the forest and bring one down - THAT'S impressive, and a sporting event.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyThe only ones who think it isn't are the ones who haven't spent all day, or all week, traipsing up and down mountains, though fields and woods, sitting still in uncomfortable positions for hours, all for one shot if your good and lucky.
I don't hunt with a gun, but I've gone with my friends and taken my camera. It isn't easy. Many a time we have seen the deer, but you just don't have a shot. Their too far, or behind brush, or they're down wind and smell you and take off. It takes a lot of skill.
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[2 points] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyThen there are the "hunts" where they practically parade game animals in front of you for you to shoot. And baby seal hunts. Not very "sporting," IMHO.
Agreed. I'm talking about real hunting in the wild.
Several familly members hunt deer and elk (moose in N America), all for eating. A sport? Maybe - but certainly an age old way of gathering meat from the forest.
It is only a sport when the other side has a roughly equal chance of doing to you before you do to it, or if both are to be judged by an outside, fixed standard. How does hunting fit either of those--unless you are hunting bare-handed, or with no more than a fire-hardened stick at best.
How about hunting Colorado style? drive the animal into a box canyon and shoot it with automatic weapons from a helicopter. If you are eating it, it is grocery shopping, not sport. If you are !Kung, it is survival, not sport. If you have a helicopter, it is slaughter, not sport.
While hunting causes one to hike and camp and traverse difficult terain, none of that sportfulness is integral. Hunting in it's essence is the killing of animals for sport, not for food. This is wrong.
Have you ever tried it? Regardless if you enjoy the activity, once you face the challenge, you understand what is required & you will consider it a sport.
Most hunters love & appreciate nature and want to preserve the habitat and the animals. Don't confuse hunting with rednecks going wild. Research what Ducks Unlimited has done over the years.
So "hunters" don't kill animals like "rednecks going wild" do?
Define 'rednecks', they seem to take a beating! They used to be hard working people that worked outside for a living and were envied.
Ask "banker," I was just quoting him, commenting on his comment. :-)
I was replying to him, it fell under your reply for some reason.
Correct. It's how the early explorers, campers, tribal savages, poor people, people in a few categories not listed here, and also how non-human animals find food.
Why would any creature kill another creature and just do it for, uh, "fun"? Pretty damn sick if you ask me. Why not just play competitive sports or join the armed forces?
Why would any creature kill another creature and just do it for, uh, "fun"? Pretty damn sick if you ask me-----isn't that what us Humans are doing to each other???
Yeah, but we're a little more subtle (usually). :-)
If fishing is--so is hunting--each has turned scientific and taken the sport out of it, except for rabbit and squirrel.
When I go fishing I take them home and eat them. I only throw them back if they're so small there'd be nothing left after you clean them. But I know people personally that regularly throw back fish big enough to feed a family of four. I don't get it. Why make them squirm and try to get away if you don't need the food?
Me too--just a pole a line a hook and a worm---no radar or fish piss or whatever..
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyWalmart has it!!
Not from a deer!
if done in a sporting manner it is. I hunt. I don't have heads on my walls, I eat what I shoot. yes we have rifles/shotguns/bows, but if you hunt with proper discipline and respect for your quarry, it is indeed a sport. i don't use lures/decoys/scents. One could say that the weapon is one heck of an equalizer, but the sport is in not relying on technology and the latest gadgets but one on one, using woodcraft alone. it is such an emotional issue for some that a logical discussion is impossible. i won't apologize for it, I am proud I can do it, and know that come what may, my children and I will eat.
Now--this is hunting--more power to you, carry on..
Ditto. Actually better than buying meat in a supermarket, you know what the animal goes through. Animals eat to survive, so do humans. It's leaving them to die and rot that I'm against.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user Reply