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Is there no middle ground?

No, IMHO, we are on the "slippery slope" to extinction if we don't turn it around very soon. I feel sorry for my grandkids!

I also think every human being in this country needs to check his/her moral compass and think about what is going on around them. If we don't straighten up our general thinking we might as well put on our togas and wait for the end in comfort... :>(

This guy is smarter than us - check his dates, he knew about this crap before America was America:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." ~~ paraphrased from Sir Alex Fraser Tytler (1742-1813) Scottish jurist and historian

From a website you have given me in the past as the source of correct information, Snopes.com:

"3. The quote from "Alexander Tyler" is very likely fictitious. His name was actually "Lord Woodhouselee, Alexander Fraser Tytler," and he was a Scottish historian/professor who wrote several books in the late 1700s and early 1800s.

However, there is no record of The Fall of the Athenian Republic or The Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic in the Library of Congress, which has several other titles by Tytler. This quote has also been cited as being from Tytler's Universal History or from his Elements of General History, Ancient and Modern, books that do exist."

You've given us a quote from a neocon email forward.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp

Good catch silly!!!!

Geez, that's a shocker. A neo-con making stuff up. How about the people that approved of our country's leaders and that they're doing a good job.