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As punishment it is enough, although I would like to see the probation extend. Not having animals is punishment for the whole family, not sure it helps. As in banning the video games, I would like to see how they would enforce that....
I tend to agree that the community service is about right, provide they haven't been in previous trouble.
However I would have implemented it differently. I would have given them some time in juvenile detention, and suspended the time pending them completing the CS. I'd also have extend the probation out to 5 years. If they failed to keep their noses clean then they could have served their time in juvenile detention.
If the dog was not the boy's dog then the requirement that the "family" get ride of the "family" pet is ridiculous.
[1 point]3 years ago by dr1024ReplyEdited 3 years ago by dr1024
If as a teen I had committed such an horrific act in addition to breaking into someone's house, probation would have been the least of my worries after my parents got done with me. I'm not entirely sure what kind of human being would do such a thing, maybe they should get psychiatric help.
I realise their hands are tied by the law, but maybe it needs changing. We've had similar cases of horrific animal cruelty here and people are given really feeble sentences. But microwaving a cat...that goes beyond - that's the action of a sick mind.
A psychological approach might have its merits. How about a close encounter with another cat? They might then learn respect for felines. I'm thinking tiger here.
Sure there's help for the little cretins. In the USA we have corrections facilities to teach criminals the correct way to behave in a civilized society.
Not enough. Such actions show they have decided criminal inclinations. They need close supervision at all times while being taught how to discern right from wrong. If their parents were not up to this task then it is up to the state. That is why we have police, to protect us from criminals. And we have corrections facilities to teach criminals the correct way to behave in a civilized society. Am I wrong?
[1 point]3 years ago by ChipmonkReplyEdited 3 years ago by Chipmonk
I don't have any particular political affiliation but will attach myself to certain issues. I don't like "jargon" to describe people or issues, like "liberal"; I think it's lazy and replaces critical thinking. I read a lot and I put polls up on issues when I want to compare my opinions against those of others. Often I'm surprised and that's what I like about Ask500. I'm back in Maine (thank god) now after having spent 8 months in Germany and 6 weeks in Krakow, Poland. I did go back to Poland, near Warsaw, for six weeks but am back. I'm home for good now.
After years of mostly ending up on the "liberal" side of things, I'm tending right a little over this illegal immigration issue and I'm becoming more jaded about our Congress. I have to fight feeling hopeless about our country.
Here's the cite: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2008/09/04/camrose-sentence.html
As punishment it is enough, although I would like to see the probation extend. Not having animals is punishment for the whole family, not sure it helps. As in banning the video games, I would like to see how they would enforce that....
I tend to agree that the community service is about right, provide they haven't been in previous trouble.
However I would have implemented it differently. I would have given them some time in juvenile detention, and suspended the time pending them completing the CS. I'd also have extend the probation out to 5 years. If they failed to keep their noses clean then they could have served their time in juvenile detention.
If the dog was not the boy's dog then the requirement that the "family" get ride of the "family" pet is ridiculous.
If as a teen I had committed such an horrific act in addition to breaking into someone's house, probation would have been the least of my worries after my parents got done with me. I'm not entirely sure what kind of human being would do such a thing, maybe they should get psychiatric help.
I agree also--not even a slap on the hand--what is wrong here?
I realise their hands are tied by the law, but maybe it needs changing. We've had similar cases of horrific animal cruelty here and people are given really feeble sentences. But microwaving a cat...that goes beyond - that's the action of a sick mind.
A psychological approach might have its merits. How about a close encounter with another cat? They might then learn respect for felines. I'm thinking tiger here.
Sounds like a great idea, I'll call the local zoo!!!
We had a case like that last year...some hoods were teasing the animals, and the tiger finally took exception to it.
Well, that was ill-making.
Agree with Spange, they need psych help. Don't know if there is any help to be had for those little cretins, though.
Sure there's help for the little cretins. In the USA we have corrections facilities to teach criminals the correct way to behave in a civilized society.
They don't teach anything, they simply incarcerate.
What I meant was that if they are already at that level of sociopathy I thing the psych help may be too late.
If they simply incarcerate isn't it time to stop calling them correctional facilities?
Yes.
Are public floggings still legal in Canada? if not this case could be sufficient reason to re-introduce them.
Maybe not public, but I think canings might be something to consider.
Not enough. Such actions show they have decided criminal inclinations. They need close supervision at all times while being taught how to discern right from wrong. If their parents were not up to this task then it is up to the state. That is why we have police, to protect us from criminals. And we have corrections facilities to teach criminals the correct way to behave in a civilized society. Am I wrong?