| Do you think Pete Rose should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame? |
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Asked 116 days ago
by boltboy8  United States |
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YES.
Ban him from everything else, but put him in there!
If the all-time hits leader isn't in, the whole thing is a complete and utter joke.
NO.
He violated the rules. He stays out with Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, and all the other PED users. Manny, A-Rod, the list goes on....
I agree with you on the steroid users but Rose was the all time hit leader before the gambling incident so I don't think that applies in his case. Now if they were considering him for his managing, that would apply.
As a player alone, he should be in the Hall. He should go into the HOF the year after Shoeless Joe goes in. He denied fixing the Series.
Cheaters are one thing, Rose is another. What he did didn't hinder or improve his performance, even when he was doing it. It didn't affect his play or his stats at all. A tremendous difference.
His ban from the HOF was ex post facto, as well. Baseball may not work under the exact same rules as the government, but that's a very good one that they decided to not follow. When Rose accepted his ban, it didn't include an HOF ban, but suddenly a few years later, it did. That's bullshit in and of itself.
I can honestly say that if I were a HOF caliber baseball player, I would have no interest in being admitted to the HOF without Rose.
It's the composite picture that adds it up, not just a player. You could also argue that Ty Cobb shouldn't be in because he was a racist, I suppose. Maybe if the Black Sox of 1919 didn't happen, the gambling wouldn't have been such a problem. But, he lied to the commish's face and here we stand.
not when he was playing did he violate the rules
Yes, Rose goes in based on his days as a baseball player, not as a baseball manager. Unless it was proven that he cheated while he played, which I do not believe, then he should be in the hall of fame. I am fine with the permanent ban on his involvement with baseball AND his inclusion into the Hall of Fame. Who can deny that he is one of the greatest to have played the game?
Obviously, there's enough people that care about baseball that more questions should be posed. Besides, I'd rather argue about baseball than politics, religion, peeing in the shower....