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When Michael Shermer (President of the Skeptic Society) changes his position and starts believing, it behooves us all to sit up and take notice.

"Nevertheless, data trump politics, and a convergence of evidence from numerous sources has led me to make a cognitive switch on the subject of anthropogenic global warming." -- Michael Shermer

Seriously, I can't believe people still doubt anthropogenic global warming. There was a time when doubting was the right thing to do. That time has long since passed.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-flipping-point

8 Replies to chaleur's answer

You had better believe 'that people still doubt'. There has been too much falsification of data and selective manipulation of records to enable resonable people (such as your humble servant) to take this biggest of scams seriously.

I hope I live long enough to see the media herd stampede in the opposite direction.

What like lemmings running into the rising sea level? ;)

The sea-level is NOT rising. Global temps are NOT increasing. the number of polar bears is NOT decreasing - in fact it has never been higher. Sea-ice is more wide spread than it has been for many years.

So they fall back on 'climate change'. Wilfully ignoring the fact that climate ALWAYS changes, just as ice core samples from many locations and dating back 100.000 years (and more) show.

Can you site some data to defend your position? I cited some to defend mine. Respectfully, because I do believe that you are sincere, you haven't backed up a single assertion you've made with anything.

Global Warming or not, we all need to participate in making the earth a cleaner place to live.

*Polar Bears*

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/03/goddard_polar_ice/

Is the sea level rising?

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2008/01/04/lowering-sea-level-rise/

Are the ice caps melting?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/03/goddard_polar_ice/

There is a wealth of data on the net.

I, too, respect your sincerity. Which is more than I can say for politicians on the make like Mr Gore.

Everyone just loves to argue, especially when it conflicts with their way of life...

.... or when it conflicts with the facts.

Stop! It's all about Global Cooling now XD

I think it's all fake.

Yes the climate is changing around our Earth now it is getting colder also in tropical Thailand,but I do not think that our Pollution is the only course. It has to do with our Sun and the position of our Sun and Planets in the big Milky Way. We are aligned close to the Big Black Hole

The Earth went through dramatic climate changes even before the time of humans/cars/pollution. >_<

1 Replies to metalhead's answer

yes, and it may be going through one now, but even if our pollution increases that rate by a few percent, it could be all it takes to get us all killed.