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@patriot: So there was a time where you chose to be (I suppose) hetrosexual? That would indicate that you weren't allways sure about your sexuality. :) - oh how i hate talking about these sexual topics. xD
have you heard of the ex-ex-gays? And that almost every ex-gay still has homosexual fantasies - so is still bisexual? Anyway. Let's assume it is a choice for gays. That would mean that there are hetrosexuals who have chosen to be straight. So in this view. hetrosexually is a choice too. But if you say that there are some people born as hetrosexuals it just means that there are people born with a different sexuality. otherwise all sexualities are the same. With other word - homosexuality - the _love_ between people of the same sex isn't a choice. quod erat demonstrandum.
You have stupid logic. People don't choose to be heterosexual. Just like you don't choose to be born. And panda's don't choose to be pandas, they just are. That's because it's the "natural order", that is to say, it's the way things are supposed to be. That means I have to highjack my natural purposes and corrupt them to my own will.
Furthermore, why the hell would anyone *choose* to be homosexual? With all the bigotry, homophobia, and vitriol they are made to endure one would have to be masochistic.
Aaaahhhh..... why would anyone choose to be a pedophile, murderer, rapist? That's the logic you're using right. Someone dosen't choose a lifestyle if the consequences of that lifestyle are bad. HELLOOOOO, people choose bad lifestyles all the time, it's because people do what they want to do no matter the consequences.
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Ask God why something is a sin? Read the Bible, don't ask questions of men other than to find out where to find the source.....you go to the source, the Bible! That includes not taking my word for it.....seek for yourself!
But how about for a change of pace you try to justify your position for once instead of saying "Read the Bible!!!" After all, you say that often enough that we can just all assume that it's implied in every one of your comments
So the Bible isn't good enough? That's not a source of morality? Where do you have the right to say that? What moral athority do you speak from? Do you seriously think we're going to believe morality is just the whimsical decision made by you, or the people on this post, or the society? If you're right I guess the Nazi's are off the hook. Whoo hoo, sure hope the South would have won cause there's nothing wrong with slavery.
Thank you all for your comments. Very interesting. I apprechiate your thoughts. My only thought about that: Nature (or call it God) loves diversity, why don't humans do as well?
Being homosexual is not a choice, nor is it a sin, nor is it a sickness, nor is it perverted. You homophobes are extremists, cowards, and overall idiots.
Is sex with a child wrong? You're a pedophobe! You need to stop hating and start loving pedophiles. The world is worse with all of your hate you bigot.
[1 point]120 days ago by johndoe83ReplyEdited 120 days ago by johndoe83
I think that being gay or traight or bie it does not matter as long as your happy?? And if you think it is a sin, i want to know who told you because i have not hear of god coming down and daming people to hell for being gay so untill that happens all you judgemental people need to shut youe mouths!! Maybe you could get to know them before you call them freaks or say they need to go to hell!!!
I love you! That's the best logic I've ever heard. What if what makes me happy is murdering people? Why does it matter? I just want to kill small children? Stop judging me. Or how about a pedophile. " I just want to rape children, that's all". You should learn to be more tolerant of pedophiles and murderers, by your own logic.
Lol, the main problem is that rape and pedophilia are harmful. Homosexuality is not harmful. The very fact that you even compare pedophilia (a fetish) to s sexual orientation is laughable, and shows you are desperate in trying to convince other people of your bigoted views.
Homosexuality is not a sin. Many Christians misinterpret cherry picked lines either intentionally or unintentionally. Scholars who have recently studied the Bible in context of other lines and of the times have shown those passages often cited, such as Leviticus's "man lieth with man" have to do with idolatry, rape, and prostitution. Thats why Jesus never mentioned homosexuality as well, but clearly
Various books have been written on this issue. Real Christians dont need links though as proof, as homosexuality is not wrong, immoral, and doesnt harm others.
You are confused. Did you know Jesus never mentioned not to smoke crack? Did you know he never said not to, " kill on saturday, rape on wednesday, smoke dope,". Crap, by that logic I can snort coke right of the raped corps of a hooker. He never said not to kill a hooker, we all know that.
Lol, another bigot trying to bring irrelevant variables to condone their bigotry. The problem with your answer, is that the Bible clearly says you shall not harm yourself nor do drugs. However, the Bible NEVER said homosexuality or gay marriage was a sin, unless you try to twist verses out of context. Also, homosexuality is not harmful like drugs are. bigot logic never wins, as shown by your response.
1. People do choose to be gay. Many heterosexuals that had the opportunity to become gay chose not to.
2. Homosexuality is a choice! To think it's not is a myth. People aren't born gay, that's impossible, if homosexuality were in the genes, there would be no homosexuals. Evolution tells us that HELLO! Groups who don't have offspring die off.
3. If you would have asked this question 50 years ago, people would have been 80% the other way. What's the difference? What people believe duhh? Reality hasn't changed.
4. If you don't believe in a higher power, then you obviously won't think it's wrong.
I'm sorry, but science proves you wrong. See, unlike religion, science relies on facts, not unprovable myths.
Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.
There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. "Nurture" may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.
And it should also be noted that:
"It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organisations do believe it is impossible to change a person's sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association."
But we don't need scientific evidence for this.
I shall ask you this. Are you male? (If not, reverse the questions to the other gender) If so, Are you sexually attracted to other men? Would you be able to enjoy sex with a man? Do you get sexual urges with a man? Do men turn you on sexually and emotionally? Could you be happy with a man sexually for the rest of your life?
If you are heterosexual, the answer should be no. Otherwise, you might either be bi-sexual or homosexual, and might want to re-evaluate your sexuality. It is well known that a lot of homophobes deny their homosexuality by being aggressive towards it, until they finally accept it. Most people know this is not a choice, and it would be ignorant claiming it so. I know a few gay people who went to a straight club when they were figuring out their sexuality, where women were putting their naked bodies all over them, giving them naked lap dances, not once did the gay men get it up or aroused. But just the picture of a naked guy gets them up easily. Tell me thats choice. Also, why would a gay person, knowing that you will have a rough time in society, knowing that you cant get married unless you live in certain places, knowing that people will pick on you for it, knowing that your closest friends and families might completely turn their back on you, choose to be gay, if they could easily be satisfied by the opposite sex? Because they can't. Simple logic there.
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Its a choice!
@patriot: So there was a time where you chose to be (I suppose) hetrosexual? That would indicate that you weren't allways sure about your sexuality. :) - oh how i hate talking about these sexual topics. xD
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What are you talking about....? The choice question was to be a homosexual or a lesbian!
yeah - you see, you didn't choose you sexuality. So why do you think gays have a choics?
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bull ! its a chosen lifestyle! There are many "former" homosexuals and lesbians out, telling the truth about it.....you ever read or quote them?
have you heard of the ex-ex-gays? And that almost every ex-gay still has homosexual fantasies - so is still bisexual? Anyway. Let's assume it is a choice for gays. That would mean that there are hetrosexuals who have chosen to be straight. So in this view. hetrosexually is a choice too. But if you say that there are some people born as hetrosexuals it just means that there are people born with a different sexuality. otherwise all sexualities are the same. With other word - homosexuality - the _love_ between people of the same sex isn't a choice. quod erat demonstrandum.
I will stop to reply, as everything is said now.
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Good, as I am tired of hearing the justification for a perverted lifestyle! See what the bible has to say about it!
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[1 point] 1 year ago by deleted user ReplyWell met.
One of the better comments I have read, thanks gdmaster.
Hey, have you heard of stuff I just make up and pull out of my rear? I just get to say stuff, and don't have to quote any facts behind it.
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyYou have stupid logic. People don't choose to be heterosexual. Just like you don't choose to be born. And panda's don't choose to be pandas, they just are. That's because it's the "natural order", that is to say, it's the way things are supposed to be. That means I have to highjack my natural purposes and corrupt them to my own will.
Furthermore, why the hell would anyone *choose* to be homosexual? With all the bigotry, homophobia, and vitriol they are made to endure one would have to be masochistic.
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[2 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyTed Haggard. What a champion there.
Aaaahhhh..... why would anyone choose to be a pedophile, murderer, rapist? That's the logic you're using right. Someone dosen't choose a lifestyle if the consequences of that lifestyle are bad. HELLOOOOO, people choose bad lifestyles all the time, it's because people do what they want to do no matter the consequences.
people dont choose their sexuality so why should it be a sin.
i'm not christian/catholic but arent the 7 deadly sins commited consciously, by choice?
if god loved you guys so much would he expect you to live in "holy matrimony" even if its a life of unhappniess?
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Ask God why something is a sin? Read the Bible, don't ask questions of men other than to find out where to find the source.....you go to the source, the Bible! That includes not taking my word for it.....seek for yourself!
Great idea!
But how about for a change of pace you try to justify your position for once instead of saying "Read the Bible!!!" After all, you say that often enough that we can just all assume that it's implied in every one of your comments
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[1 point] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyI didn't ask any questions!
But I see your point. I always take the damn bait. Still, it's just so irksome!
Homosexuality? Read the Bible!
Evolution? Read the Bible!
Economic policy? Teh Bibelz!1!
Boxers or briefs? Buybull!1!
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[2 points] 2 years ago by deleted user ReplyAbsolutely hilarious.
You're right it s irksome,
Homosexuality? Thin air..
Evolution? My rear...
Economic policy? "whatever makes me feel good"
Boxers or briefs? derrrrrr
stop whining, that's just childish
I know about my thoughts, but I want to know about yours! Its a question of reflecting oneself.
good comment!
So the Bible isn't good enough? That's not a source of morality? Where do you have the right to say that? What moral athority do you speak from? Do you seriously think we're going to believe morality is just the whimsical decision made by you, or the people on this post, or the society? If you're right I guess the Nazi's are off the hook. Whoo hoo, sure hope the South would have won cause there's nothing wrong with slavery.
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it's mind sickness
no i dont think it s a sickness or a sin...
Thank you all for your comments. Very interesting. I apprechiate your thoughts. My only thought about that: Nature (or call it God) loves diversity, why don't humans do as well?
Being homosexual is not a choice, nor is it a sin, nor is it a sickness, nor is it perverted. You homophobes are extremists, cowards, and overall idiots.
No Worries - I published this question being gay myself... ;)
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[1 point] 1 year ago by deleted user ReplyIs sex with a child wrong? You're a pedophobe! You need to stop hating and start loving pedophiles. The world is worse with all of your hate you bigot.
I think that being gay or traight or bie it does not matter as long as your happy?? And if you think it is a sin, i want to know who told you because i have not hear of god coming down and daming people to hell for being gay so untill that happens all you judgemental people need to shut youe mouths!! Maybe you could get to know them before you call them freaks or say they need to go to hell!!!
I love you! That's the best logic I've ever heard. What if what makes me happy is murdering people? Why does it matter? I just want to kill small children? Stop judging me. Or how about a pedophile. " I just want to rape children, that's all". You should learn to be more tolerant of pedophiles and murderers, by your own logic.
Lol, the main problem is that rape and pedophilia are harmful. Homosexuality is not harmful. The very fact that you even compare pedophilia (a fetish) to s sexual orientation is laughable, and shows you are desperate in trying to convince other people of your bigoted views.
Es ist angeboren. Wahrscheinlich ein Genfehler ;)
This argument is flawed and can backfire.
If beeing gay is a disability shouldnt gay people get a disability benefit ??
Homosexuality is not a sin. Many Christians misinterpret cherry picked lines either intentionally or unintentionally. Scholars who have recently studied the Bible in context of other lines and of the times have shown those passages often cited, such as Leviticus's "man lieth with man" have to do with idolatry, rape, and prostitution. Thats why Jesus never mentioned homosexuality as well, but clearly
mentions love for everyone.
Some sites showing the truths:
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/2554/kallos/bchtext2.html
http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=10620&pid=805
http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
http://www.christchapel.com/romans_inter.html
http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/about/homosexuality.html
http://www.gaychristian101.com/Eunuchs-Are-Gay.html
Various books have been written on this issue. Real Christians dont need links though as proof, as homosexuality is not wrong, immoral, and doesnt harm others.
You are confused. Did you know Jesus never mentioned not to smoke crack? Did you know he never said not to, " kill on saturday, rape on wednesday, smoke dope,". Crap, by that logic I can snort coke right of the raped corps of a hooker. He never said not to kill a hooker, we all know that.
Lol, another bigot trying to bring irrelevant variables to condone their bigotry. The problem with your answer, is that the Bible clearly says you shall not harm yourself nor do drugs. However, the Bible NEVER said homosexuality or gay marriage was a sin, unless you try to twist verses out of context. Also, homosexuality is not harmful like drugs are. bigot logic never wins, as shown by your response.
yup
1. People do choose to be gay. Many heterosexuals that had the opportunity to become gay chose not to.
2. Homosexuality is a choice! To think it's not is a myth. People aren't born gay, that's impossible, if homosexuality were in the genes, there would be no homosexuals. Evolution tells us that HELLO! Groups who don't have offspring die off.
3. If you would have asked this question 50 years ago, people would have been 80% the other way. What's the difference? What people believe duhh? Reality hasn't changed.
4. If you don't believe in a higher power, then you obviously won't think it's wrong.
I'm sorry, but science proves you wrong. See, unlike religion, science relies on facts, not unprovable myths.
Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.
http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html
Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html
http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/
There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. "Nurture" may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.
And it should also be noted that:
"It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organisations do believe it is impossible to change a person's sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association."
But we don't need scientific evidence for this.
I shall ask you this. Are you male? (If not, reverse the questions to the other gender) If so, Are you sexually attracted to other men? Would you be able to enjoy sex with a man? Do you get sexual urges with a man? Do men turn you on sexually and emotionally? Could you be happy with a man sexually for the rest of your life?
If you are heterosexual, the answer should be no. Otherwise, you might either be bi-sexual or homosexual, and might want to re-evaluate your sexuality. It is well known that a lot of homophobes deny their homosexuality by being aggressive towards it, until they finally accept it. Most people know this is not a choice, and it would be ignorant claiming it so. I know a few gay people who went to a straight club when they were figuring out their sexuality, where women were putting their naked bodies all over them, giving them naked lap dances, not once did the gay men get it up or aroused. But just the picture of a naked guy gets them up easily. Tell me thats choice. Also, why would a gay person, knowing that you will have a rough time in society, knowing that you cant get married unless you live in certain places, knowing that people will pick on you for it, knowing that your closest friends and families might completely turn their back on you, choose to be gay, if they could easily be satisfied by the opposite sex? Because they can't. Simple logic there.