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Similar here, just that I see many reasons why people would want to believe in a god. I can even see evolutionary reasons why a religion would benefit human societies. But wanting to believe in god(s), or an evolutionary advantage by increasing group cohesion do not make a god anymore plausible. It could just help explain the enormous number of people that believe (including many relatively intelligent people).
No, for the same reason I don't believe in the Flying Spahetti Monster, or the invisible pink unicorn, or the floating invisible squid. I don't believe in things with no evidence.
I agree, but I see no reason to tell others not to believe though. As long as they do not force their religion onto me I will not push my doubts onto them.
I usually don't go in on those conversations, people just get to angry, unless of course they start taking about legislating their particular religion into law.
You could ask yourself that if they were capable of objective reason, why would they believe in the first place? If they are capable of objective reasoning they wouldn't bother to argue with some one like me, I am no challenge for them.
As to the Global warming, if we accept that the temperature is regulated by the atmosphere then it seems rather logical that altering the atmosphere will probably alter the thermal conductivity of the atmosphere.
We don't know what the right answer is. Just because we don't see evidence of a god, that does not mean there isn't one or many, or even intelligent life. (Maybe I am just not intelligent enough to perceive their messages?)
I do. How do I know? There was a time that I didn't have Him in my life. When I accepted him a dark weight over my life lifted that I didn't realize was there and an unexplainable peace filled me. It is to hard to explain but I know that it was real and nobody could convince me otherwise. I know what I felt was, and is, real.
If you are an atheist,
If you are right (God doesn't exist) and I am wrong and we both die, what do I lose?
But if I am right and you are wrong, what do you lose? Either way I win. Is it the same for you? I don't want to get into an argument with anybody, just stating my side.
Ah, the arguement from personal experience, and Pascal's Wager. Interesting choices.
But this personal experience of yours , why would god choose you and not the any of the thousands of people praying to him? What makes you better than other people?
And Pascal's Wager is so flawed in so many ways I can't even begin to unravel it, but some nice people over here have made a huge page on PW and why it's an invalid argument. "Either way I win" is totally wrong, there are infinite ways you can lose:
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No, I have seen no evidence that god(s) exist, nor have I seen evidence that gods do not exist.
Similar here, just that I see many reasons why people would want to believe in a god. I can even see evolutionary reasons why a religion would benefit human societies. But wanting to believe in god(s), or an evolutionary advantage by increasing group cohesion do not make a god anymore plausible. It could just help explain the enormous number of people that believe (including many relatively intelligent people).
No, for the same reason I don't believe in the Flying Spahetti Monster, or the invisible pink unicorn, or the floating invisible squid. I don't believe in things with no evidence.
NON BELEIVER!!!!
It's spelt "Non-believer".
lol, true, but you can't blame him for shouting a truth can you?
You believe in man made global warming! Or does manufactured evidence count?
Lol, you made me spill my coffee. (Ironically it is the manufacturing that produces a lot of the pollution.)
Me neither, but if I had to choose, FSM would be the coolest choice.
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I agree, but I see no reason to tell others not to believe though. As long as they do not force their religion onto me I will not push my doubts onto them.
Agreed. I always let them bring it up first.
I usually don't go in on those conversations, people just get to angry, unless of course they start taking about legislating their particular religion into law.
If they get angry, that's their problem. I'm just answering their questions honestly.
That is your choice ;)
So you see no reason to rationalize the irrational?
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What can I say?
You could ask yourself that if they were capable of objective reason, why would they believe in the first place? If they are capable of objective reasoning they wouldn't bother to argue with some one like me, I am no challenge for them.
OMG I finally agree with something you said! Maybe man made global warming is true.
Come on now JM we have agreed in the past...
As to the Global warming, if we accept that the temperature is regulated by the atmosphere then it seems rather logical that altering the atmosphere will probably alter the thermal conductivity of the atmosphere.
believer,but i dont believe in religion i believe that theres a God somewhere and it makes feel loved somehow
So you're just lonely? Don't you care for the right answer?
We don't know what the right answer is. Just because we don't see evidence of a god, that does not mean there isn't one or many, or even intelligent life. (Maybe I am just not intelligent enough to perceive their messages?)
I do. How do I know? There was a time that I didn't have Him in my life. When I accepted him a dark weight over my life lifted that I didn't realize was there and an unexplainable peace filled me. It is to hard to explain but I know that it was real and nobody could convince me otherwise. I know what I felt was, and is, real.
If you are an atheist,
If you are right (God doesn't exist) and I am wrong and we both die, what do I lose?
But if I am right and you are wrong, what do you lose? Either way I win. Is it the same for you? I don't want to get into an argument with anybody, just stating my side.
So it is about "winning" for you?
Ah, the arguement from personal experience, and Pascal's Wager. Interesting choices.
But this personal experience of yours , why would god choose you and not the any of the thousands of people praying to him? What makes you better than other people?
And Pascal's Wager is so flawed in so many ways I can't even begin to unravel it, but some nice people over here have made a huge page on PW and why it's an invalid argument. "Either way I win" is totally wrong, there are infinite ways you can lose:
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Pascal%27s_Wager
"I don't want to get into an argument with anybody" You already have, that's what happens when you present invalid arguments on a forum.
With over 800 gods to choose from, imagine you worshipped the wrong one, wouldn't that piss off the real god/gods even more?
The results of this generic question astound me.
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This proves we live amongst people who will piously believe in the unproven.
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A capitalist niche in the market if ever I saw, oh, wait a minute..
..A M E R I C A.
L. Ron Hubbard figured this out a long time ago.
For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.
Try me.