| Do Christians, Jews and Muslims all believe in the same God? |
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Asked 1 year ago
by Stevemac  Ireland |
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According to Conservative Boston radio talk show host, Michael Graham, I'm what's known as a EuroWeenie.
That's what he calls anyone from Europe who doesn't touch the forelock in deference to the almighty U S of A.
So, I guess I'm a EuroWeenie then, and proud of it.
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They do, they just don't realise it. Then one day a person will die and go to heaven and be like "What the hell are you doing here, your jewish! And whats he doing here? We were all worshipping the same guy? LET ME OUT!"
lol
I always thought this summed that concept up pretty well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UbqZ_oN5do&feature=related
lol
I love that sketch...
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[2 points] 1 year ago by deleted user ReplyThey all worship the same God. Judaism started it, Christianity was an extension/offshoot of Judaism, and then Islam was an offshoot of them both.
They all clearly have different ideas about their God, but that just means that at least two of the groups are wrong.
Pick any two. ;o)
yup. And Islam has acknowledged it for centuries.
We do worship the same god and some people are thick headed to see. It's just how we interpret our beliefs with biblical politics.
All beliefs are the same up to Abraham where Jewish and Islam goes into different directions. Thus the same goes with Jews and Christians with Jesus.
Just the same god, all religions are our principles to believe in him.
Just to clarify. Your "we" does not include me.
Me neither.
Nor for me?
I ain't?
Whatever. I'm trying to say I agree with you.
But then you are not a Jew, Christian or Muslim, are you? ;o)
Yes, the same invisible friend, but that is just like 3 kids having the same invisible friend, it does not make them any more real.
Very well put!
If the three of them are having arguments with each other, and three of them are describing the same God, wouldn't that make the story more credible?
No, it could just mean they all got the ideas from similar original sources. Much the same way as alleged "abductees" all describe the same aliens.
This is the main idea, three of them are getting the description from the same source.
No more than the various stories of the flood make Noah and his mega-boat real :)
we were talking about God not stories
however, you would even find similarities in both stories and beliefs but the practices might differ
All we "know" about God, we get from stories.
I know of no other source, do you?
I know another source, God talking about himself in Quranic text, so did in the Bible.
When God says, that he is the creator of this world, that we should not worship but him, that he is merciful, that he tought us what we know that he is beyond perception as what and how. these are not stories.
That does not mean the stories are default by any means, stories are one great way to educate, and that is what most book authors do to explain something.
But that is like saying Harry Potter is real because he talks to Ron Weasley in a book.
All these books were written by men, and God is just the main character in some of the stories.
J. K. Rowling never claimed that Harry Potter was real, and if she did, we can not claim it is not true unless we can prove our claim.
Since we do not know who wrote the religious texts, we don't know if they claimed they were real either.
I know some of them. Of course no one here would know that Quranic text was written by a group of 6 men, witnessed by a group of several hundred others, and tracked down name by name until this day. It was dictated to them in several occasions and they memorized it by heart, like what we do these days.
Does it make you cross the way Saudi Arabia is rewriting the texts to suit their own viewpoint and to emphasise and expand the verses favoured by extremists?
interpretation is different than the original text.
ok, Saudis might have twisted the meanings in their favor before, but they could nevre touch the text spread around the world with more than 1.3 Bn people, word to word, no difference.
Here is just one example of the corruption.
(If this was a religious book sacred to me, I would be furious)
The Wahhabi Koran is notable in that, while Muslims believe that their sacred text was dictated by God and cannot be altered, the Saudi English version adds to the original so as to change its sense in a radical direction. For example, the opening chapter, or surah, is known as Fatiha, and is recited in Muslim daily prayer and (among non-Wahhabis) as a memorial to the dead. The four final lines of Fatiha read, in a normal rendition of the Arabic original (such as this translation by N.J. Dawood, published by Penguin Books): Guide us to the straight path, / The path of those whom You have favored, / Not of those who have incurred Your wrath, / Nor of those who have gone astray.
The Wahhabi Koran renders these lines: Guide us to the Straight Way. / The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who have earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians). The Wahhabi Koran prints this translation alongside the Arabic text, which contains no reference to either Jews or Christians.
There is nothing to indicate to the uninformed reader that these interpolations, printed in parentheses, are absent from the Arabic. The reader encountering Islam for the first time, as well as the Muslim already indoctrinated in Wahhabism, is led to believe that the Koran denounces all Jews and Christians, which it does not.
the full article I took this from is at
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/653wwewi.asp?pg=1
They are semi educated. forgive their ignorance
I have sympathy for the people who are targeted by this hate campaign, but the people behind it are deliberately trying to spread hate in the world, they are perhaps too well educated :)
I don't want to start talking conspiracies. I read that article about anti Islamic regimes sponsoring such publications to self destruct Islam, However they were surprised by the up rise of the moderate Muslims. I used to read such publications but my mind and heart refused it when I grew older, because it started contradicting the basic principles and the clear verses in Quran and Hadith (Prophet sayings)
Indeed, the young are easily influenced.
With luck they will all live to become older and wiser as we have.
You and I seem to have found some common ground through dialogue, perhaps all is not totally hopeless for the world!