| Do believe that people are inherently good or bad? |
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Asked 131 days ago
by Emilyfordinner  United States |
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I believe that most people are inherently good. There is some very exciting research going on these days studying ethics in children cross-culturally. It seems that all children have an innate sense of fairness, and that it is pretty universal in construction (what is fair, what is not) across the board. 'Reasoned' unfairnesses have to be learned--things like "It's OK to not feed the hungry" and "It's OK if innocent people are convicted and executed as long as most of the time we kill the guilty." Just for example.
No.
Still, all cultures that I know of share some of the same basic moral guidelines. Like the prohibition on killing other in-group humans.
I believe a few people are inherently all good and a few inherently all bad but that the great majority are at some intermediate point on the scale.
That makes no sense at all. "Good" and "bad" are totally subjective terms. It's not possible for a subjective quality to be inherent.
And there we have it. The very heart of what is wrong with the leftist liberal philosophy. And the reason why society is declining.
Good and bad are 'subjective'. Which leads to the conclusion that there is no difference between right and wrong and on to the fall in standards of behaviour that we see all aroung us.
What bullshit. Good and bad are obviously subjective, how absurd of you to pretend like you don't understand it. You are not this stupid that I actually need to explain it to you, but just in case I'm wrong and you actually are this stupid, I'll give it a go.
See, there are things you believe are "good" that other people believe are "bad", and vice versa. Right? You are familiar with this concept, correct? Here's one - religion, for example, I believe you have expressed an opinion here on occasion that you think religion is "bad".
But guess what, peterf, there are people who think it's "good". I know, go figure, right? But it's true, honest!
Therefore, good and bad are subjective.
Doesn't take a fucking genius to understand that, unless you live in Sweden maybe. Or are an opinionated right wing asshole trying to make a cheap ideological point.
No - it is rather a cheap philosophical point. If one insists that good and bad are merely subjective then one must conclude that right and wrong are also subjective.
It is not my position. I think religion is objectively bad and wrong in many ways.
Btw - thanks for the insults. Nothing as good as personal abuse to weaken an already irrational case.
"I think religion is objectively bad and wrong in many ways."
Any sentence that starts with "I think..." is a subjective statement.
"If one insists that good and bad are merely subjective then one must conclude that right and wrong are also subjective."
Of course. "Right" and "wrong" are just other words for "good" and "bad", so that one's rather obvious.
For example... I think it's "wrong"/"bad" to cut off the tip of your infant son's penis. But many people think it's "good"/"right". See? They mean the same thing. And they are still subjective.
That is the path to moral equivalence. You will have to travel it without me.
You're just determined to misunderstand this, I think.
It's got nothing to do with moral equivalence. The value of one's belief is not lessened by acknowledging that it is a subjective belief.
If you need to believe that the things you stand for are absolute objective determinations, if they do not carry the same worthiness to you if they are subjective - that means you have no confidence in your own ability to make moral determinations. You can't defend your own values and attitudes unless you think there is some predetermined absolute set of values and attitudes to which you subscribe.
peterf, that sounds an awful lot like religion to me. I'm starting to think you never been totally deprogrammed from Catholicism.
If anyone should understand what I'm saying here, it's you.
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