Could we attempt to validate the RC claims of transmutation by asking one to spew after communion and testing for extra DNA?
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I agree that you do have a warped sense of humor. Why don't you try and desecrate something Islamic? Oh yeah, you would get beheaded! Leave religious people alone. Mocking someones beliefs is sick.
Almost every christian I have ever met would love to be able to proove to me that there religion is true.
Serious Catholics belive that when you take the sacrements, somehow the thing transforms into the blood and body of Jesus Christ.
Now if someone could produce a bt of that body, and science said it was in fact consistent with that of a man from the middle east about 2,000 years ago, I would be the first one in the church the next Sunday!
If you are prepared to stand up and say "I believe XYZ" then surely you would be happy to have XYZ proven to the world?
Like the virgin birth and the resurrection, tranmutation sounds like fantasy to me ... but if proven, I would quickly admit I was wrong.
Interesting test proposal. Even though Gould says religion and science belong to different "magesteria," many of the claims of religions people actually are testable. Skeptics have already tested intercessory prayer and proved that it has no healing effect.
I think you should go through with it. Keep in mind that RCs will say you are testing for a "spirit" and probably that your lack of faith interferes with transubstantiation. "You shall not put the Lord your God to the test," BLATHER, BLATHER, BLATHER.
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[1 point] 1 year ago by deleted user ReplyNice idea.
I wonder if any of the devout would like to try your little experiment under lab conditions, might be a way to settle the question at last!
I agree that you do have a warped sense of humor. Why don't you try and desecrate something Islamic? Oh yeah, you would get beheaded! Leave religious people alone. Mocking someones beliefs is sick.
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[2 points] 1 year ago by deleted user ReplyWhy is this mockery?
Almost every christian I have ever met would love to be able to proove to me that there religion is true.
Serious Catholics belive that when you take the sacrements, somehow the thing transforms into the blood and body of Jesus Christ.
Now if someone could produce a bt of that body, and science said it was in fact consistent with that of a man from the middle east about 2,000 years ago, I would be the first one in the church the next Sunday!
If you are prepared to stand up and say "I believe XYZ" then surely you would be happy to have XYZ proven to the world?
Like the virgin birth and the resurrection, tranmutation sounds like fantasy to me ... but if proven, I would quickly admit I was wrong.
Interesting test proposal. Even though Gould says religion and science belong to different "magesteria," many of the claims of religions people actually are testable. Skeptics have already tested intercessory prayer and proved that it has no healing effect.
I think you should go through with it. Keep in mind that RCs will say you are testing for a "spirit" and probably that your lack of faith interferes with transubstantiation. "You shall not put the Lord your God to the test," BLATHER, BLATHER, BLATHER.
Good points, and also made me realise I had been using the wrong term.
Sadly I think you are right, when the expected lack of evidence was reported, they would say it was divine interference to stop us "testing God".