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Barry's "Let's be careful not to jump to any conclusions" regarding the murdering, Muslim, terrorist maggot is sickening. Ask a Question

Barry's "Let's be careful not to jump to any conclusions" regarding the murdering, Muslim, terrorist maggot is sickening.
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Why bring religion into it.

12 Replies to Aussie's answer

You don't think that was a contributing factor to the terrorist attack?

We have one of the world's worst mass murderers in jail in Australia and it had nothing to do with religion.

Martin Bryant:

Murdered 35 people including children and injured 21 at Port Arthur, Tasmania Australia.

So not all mass murders are religiously motivated. We can all agree. But the one at Fort Hood was Aussie, so it is not us that is 'bringing religion into it'.

Um, mass murder is mass murder.

First, I think they are psychotic, no matter where or who is responsible.

I feel that being a follower of the Muslim faith has little to do with it.

I would expect there are many Muslim's on that base, but they didn't go psycho.

If the Muslim faith had that influence on people, wouldn't we have most or all Muslims as mass murderers. But that isn't happening, this is an isolated tragedy.

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Sorry ?

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Sorry ? I'm only a bit deaf.

Terrorist is mentioned in the question.

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When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it's an act of terror.

I think being in the military might have been a far greater contribution.

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I wonder if some of these "Terrorist's" like being named a "Terrorist", that they are proud that people think of them with terror.

Maybe they should be called Murderers (they don't think they are murderers) because it has a historical, negative meaning to the word.

A case could be made that the President wanted to get the facts straight before he made any pronouncements, something he didn't do with the incident involving a policeman and a Harvard professor.

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He can make mistakes.

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I thought you and Obama as black men stand united.

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But he wasn't wrong in that articular case.

Sure, lets not jump to conclusions else people might point out things like "Lt. Gen. William G. "Jerry" Boykin, the former head of the Army's Special Forces Command, who literally believes that his job in the U.S. military was to defeat Satan for the Christian nation of America. Of one of our enemies in Somalia, Boykin said, "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol." And why does the world hate us? "We are hated because we are a nation of believers." And how do we defeat terrorism? "We come against them in the name of Jesus."

2 Replies to AnitaDick's answer

Your case will be reinforced Anita with a reference to the most recent occasion when the retired General murdered some of his comrades.

Generals don't commit murder, they have troops to do that.

Let no conclusions be jumped to. Let us consider possibilities other than that the atrocity was carried out by a religious fanatic.

Here is one: the shooting was done by agents of the CIA/FBI/MOSSAD/NEOCONS wearing invisibility cloaks playing 'Allahu Akbar' over hidden loud speakers. There may be others which more skilled conspiracy theorists can devise.

Yes, because we really want the leader of the free world jump to conclusions based on emotion. That makes the whole world feel safer--Oh, wait, no it doesn't.

It is very important that our President ignore the Constitution and the entire structure of legal system and assume the answer before research is done, because that proves the value of our way over others--oh, wait, no it doesn't.

4 Replies to dauguy's answer

No. Not on emotion but on fact. The fact, which deperate efforts are being made to avoid, being that the murders were inspired by religion.

The man who committed this crime was a psychiatrist specialising in stress disorders. Such people are very vulnerable to stress disorder themselves. And then to be sent to Iraq on top of it?

This is far more likely scenario than a terrorist making it to the rank of major! But don't let facts get in the way of your prejudices--that's right, you don't.

Illegally sneaking weapons onto the base is not a sign of "stress disorder". It is a sign of "terrorist disorder". I know you probably support the killings... and somehow blame them on George Bush.

Let us adopt the liberal hand wringers slogan "We are all guilty! (Excepting, of course, the actual criminal who was unfairly treated, abused as a child, the victim of racism and the military-industrial complex)".

The dude went postal. That is not terrorism.

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It's not about the color of his skin, it's about his actions. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist and, as I recall, his skin was white.

There you go with your fruit to porcupine comparisons again.

THESE are similar incidents:

Edmond, Oklahoma in 1986

On August 20, 1986, 14 employees were shot and killed and six wounded at the Edmond, Oklahoma, post office by a postman, Patrick Sherrill, who then committed suicide with a shot to the forehead.[5]

[edit] Ridgewood, New Jersey in 1991

On October 10, 1991, Joseph Harris shot and killed four people, including his former boss and two other USPS employees a year after being fired.[6]

[edit] Royal Oak, Michigan in 1991

The U.S. post office in Royal Oak

On November 14, 1991 in Royal Oak, Michigan, Thomas McIlvane killed five people, including himself, with a Ruger 10/22 rifle in Royal Oak's post office, after being fired from the Postal Service for "insubordination." He had been previously suspended for getting into altercations with postal customers on his route. [7]

Double event in 1993

Two shootings took place on the same day, May 6, 1993, a few hours apart. At a post office in Dearborn, Michigan, Lawrence Jasion wounded three and killed two (including himself). In Dana Point, California, Mark Richard Hilburn killed his mother, then shot two postal workers dead.[8][citation needed]

As a result of these two shootings, in 1993 the Postal Service created 85 Workplace Environment Analysts for domicile at its 85 postal districts. These new positions were created to help with violence prevention and workplace improvement. In February 2009, the Postal Service unilaterally eliminated these positions as part of its downsizing efforts. [9]

Goleta, California, in 2006

Jennifer San Marco, a former postal employee, killed six postal employees before committing suicide with a handgun, on the evening of January 30, 2006, at a large postal processing facility in Goleta, California.[10]

And they weren't terrorism.

And neither was this.

Yeah, you ever notice how not ONE postal worker who shot up the workplace was accused of being a terrorist--by ANYONE?

That's because they weren't terrorists, and neither was this guy.