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The responses provided here are so cliche and so predictable--its sounds like the democratic manifesto. Which culture throughout history has survived with a homosexual culture? None. As in zero. Get away from time-tested values and you are headed for danger. Witness the U.S. Mortgage industry recently---when lenders got away from conservative knowns---a very large problem has been created. Borderline on destroying the worlds largest economy.
This choice re: Gays is headed in a direction that there is no compass for. It's an unknown. If people choose this direction they will suffer consequences they cannot even fathom right now. Its cool if you don't believe that
that. But what is your compass?
By the way your tolerance level seems to be at about zero. So are you pretty intolerant? Yes.
People who don't agree with your perspective are regarded as bigots(wow! cliche to the maxx)
and un-educated(I don't happen to fall in that category). Stop telling people to pick up a book---pick one up yourself(or maybe about 500). And if you were in a meeting with me face to face---I would tell you exactly the same thing.
Just curious but do you have a temper problem? And have you ever heard of Ancient Rome? Last time I heard there was an aweful lot of homosexuality going on there. And It was one of the greatest civilizations in any time period. The only reason it fell was purely a political reason. It had nothing to do with culture. And considering that homosexuality is a culture how can it destroy one? It only adds to it. Haven't you ever heard that America is the melting pot of the world? And using big words doesnt make you smarter than everyone else. It just makes you look like an ass. For marketingpro BTW
[1 point]4 years ago by AbekxReplyEdited 4 years ago by Abekx
Do you have a "judging problem'? Sounds like it. And Rome did fall because of their moral issues. Big---words? If I am trying to get a concept across--I just use that words that communicate. Homosexuality doesn't add---it takes away. I used to live in the Bay Area for many years---I have worked with numerous homosexuals...
Are you a homosexual or something?
[1 point]4 years ago by marketingproReplyEdited 4 years ago by marketingpro
Maybe i do have a judging problem. Who doesnt? but we weren't talking about moral issues. We were talking about whether or not homosexuality destroys or enhances a culture. Rome did fall because of moral issues. But it wasn't from homosexuality. They fell because they kept trying to expand. They had their sources stretched too thin. Kind of sounds like America doesnt it? And how does homosexuality take away from culture? No I'm not homosexual actually. In fact I'm not sure its right at all. But that still doesnt mean that its a danger to culture. In fact right now I'm beginning to believe that the dangerous ones are the fanatics against it. If they wanted to stop gays from getting rights then they should probably stop the hate crimes. Its giving homosexuality more pity than anything else.
Thanks for your passionate response. There is a great term in marketing FWMTS---forgot what made them succesful. This country was founded on certain principles ("Principles') ---well, we are getting away from them. And we will not survive as a culture if we move far from the guiding structures of America. You don't have to agree with that --I could care less. But that is reality. If we adopt homosexual agenda (less than 3% of our population) we are doomed. That's strong---but that is where I see we are headed if we continue to let 3%--tell 97% what to think. Its dangerous. And it's just plain foolish. IT IS A DANGER!!!
[1 point]4 years ago by marketingproReplyEdited 4 years ago by marketingpro
Those 3% arent telling other people what to think. They just want their own rights like everyone else. Its not adding to a new agenda. Everyone suddenly isn't going to be bi or gay. Its just wanting a freedom of thoughts and having the right to pursue happiness.
What? What are you 'trying' to say?? The homosexual population is difficult to pin point---but it looks like from all research it is less than 3%. So it's a very small segment of our population. With a very large agenda---and no I'm not wrong!
Its not that hard to admit when you're wrong. Just because you think your opinion is so much better than everyone elses doesn't mean it is. And you are right though. In the end I will believe whatever I want. No one, gay or straight, is going to tell me what to believe. Everyone trys to use manipulation to control peoples ideas. Thats why they have political debates. And of course any gay lobbiests have a specific agenda. All they want is their rights of marriage given. After that there isnt anything else they have planned for homosexuality. Its just like the environmentalists or the radicals. But they arent getting nearly as much bad publicity as gay rights. As far as I know there arent any gay cults out there killing straights. But the KKK does how many hate crimes and how many murders? Yet you don't hear much about them do you?
I believe this is a 'core issue'. It is the opposite of what the founding fathers would have written a constitution for. There are 25 MILLION dead because of AIDS. One of my research scientist aquaintance says his research shows him homosexual sex is a leading cause for AIDS. Can you conncect the dots? I guess you can not. You don't have to believe me---you can stay in the dark with your hands over your eyes---it's cool...(I am sure you know much more about reality than a leading research scientist)
But no one came to this country to give homosexual sex legitimacy. The men who put their very lives and fortunes one the line would have been appalled at what is transistioning in this county. 'Shaking the foundations' --- amazing! For what? For the 'false illusion' of freedom. Freedom has never been free---there is a price tag that goes hand in hand with our 'freedom'.
So I take it all the straight people who have aids must've been raped by some gay guy right?
And I never said freedom wasn't free. But who are we to judge who to give freedome to and who not to. In case you don't remember, our founding fathers never gave blacks any rights. Yet we fought a civil war over them. They also never gave women rights, but now they are voting and have just as big of a role as men do. So don't tell me what our founding fathers wouldve been appalled at. Because it wouldve been a lot more than just the homosexuality. And in case you didn't know, there are also homosexuals fighting a war right now. So are they not good enough to fight with all the straight people? Are they not good enough to serve the country in which they live in? If they can fight for us then they deserve some basic rights same as anyone else.
[1 point]4 years ago by AbekxReplyEdited 4 years ago by Abekx
You probably don't know much about this topic. Neither do most people and the media helps to confuse them. but research shows that most cases of aids are derived from two major things in America. 1. Drug IV 2. Homosexual men to men sexual activity. If there is anyone to blame---it is probably--men. That is a slap in our face---but that looks to be the core reason. So I think we as men need to do what is the right thing! At least that is how it appears to me. By the way my son got out Iraq in 2007.
I think we are losing our way---and someone needs to be able to articulate---something is wrong---not every 'wrong' decision that we make ---is right. There is a distinct difference between something that destroy---instead of something that builds. Aids is the 3rd largest plague in history.
Wow. It is hard to believe that such ignorance still exists. I feel sorry for your kind. Please do yourself a favor and pick up a book and educate yourself. Learn that there's more to life than hatred.
We are built on the idea of Life Liberty and the purrsuite of happiness(john lock), those ideas give you the right right live were u want and how u want and drive the kind of car u please and live a free life as long as you arn't violating the rights of others.
Why should those rights stop when they no long serve you, and who gave you that authority and why don't the gays have it. Just like you the gays should have the right to pursuit happiness that includes gay marriage...
Un-Christian or not makes no difference because there is a wonderful thing in the U.S called separation of church and state
responding to marketingpro It happens all the time and more then just gays want gay marriage
Now then, marketingpro. Maybe homosexuality started aids, but how do you explain how so many women have it? I'm sure there arent that many bisexual guys who are married and have aids. Or bisexual guys who go out and screw a bunch of girls and guys. The possibility of that is way too slim. And you can say whatever you'd like about research, but I somehow doubt that you'd know more about this than anyone else. And last time I checked they haven't sent out any surveys to homes asking about their sexuality. So estimating probably doesn't help much. And I'm happy for your son. Good for him. But I don't think he should be fighting unless he believes in freedom and rights for anyone and everyone who lives in the U.S.
United States
Yes. Its a dangerous direction to destroy our culture/s.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyThe responses provided here are so cliche and so predictable--its sounds like the democratic manifesto. Which culture throughout history has survived with a homosexual culture? None. As in zero. Get away from time-tested values and you are headed for danger. Witness the U.S. Mortgage industry recently---when lenders got away from conservative knowns---a very large problem has been created. Borderline on destroying the worlds largest economy.
This choice re: Gays is headed in a direction that there is no compass for. It's an unknown. If people choose this direction they will suffer consequences they cannot even fathom right now. Its cool if you don't believe that
that. But what is your compass?
By the way your tolerance level seems to be at about zero. So are you pretty intolerant? Yes.
People who don't agree with your perspective are regarded as bigots(wow! cliche to the maxx)
and un-educated(I don't happen to fall in that category). Stop telling people to pick up a book---pick one up yourself(or maybe about 500). And if you were in a meeting with me face to face---I would tell you exactly the same thing.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyI have not listened to one speech by this person. Are you "jumping to conclusions without the facts"
hmmmmmmmm sounds so cliche. Again. I am not the kind of person you can put into your nice neat little re-positioned box. Ain't gonna happen.
So stop jumping to false conclusions. And pleeeasee stop judging---
Just maybe I know something ---you just don't.
Exactly.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyJust curious but do you have a temper problem? And have you ever heard of Ancient Rome? Last time I heard there was an aweful lot of homosexuality going on there. And It was one of the greatest civilizations in any time period. The only reason it fell was purely a political reason. It had nothing to do with culture. And considering that homosexuality is a culture how can it destroy one? It only adds to it. Haven't you ever heard that America is the melting pot of the world? And using big words doesnt make you smarter than everyone else. It just makes you look like an ass. For marketingpro BTW
Do you have a "judging problem'? Sounds like it. And Rome did fall because of their moral issues. Big---words? If I am trying to get a concept across--I just use that words that communicate. Homosexuality doesn't add---it takes away. I used to live in the Bay Area for many years---I have worked with numerous homosexuals...
Are you a homosexual or something?
Maybe i do have a judging problem. Who doesnt? but we weren't talking about moral issues. We were talking about whether or not homosexuality destroys or enhances a culture. Rome did fall because of moral issues. But it wasn't from homosexuality. They fell because they kept trying to expand. They had their sources stretched too thin. Kind of sounds like America doesnt it? And how does homosexuality take away from culture? No I'm not homosexual actually. In fact I'm not sure its right at all. But that still doesnt mean that its a danger to culture. In fact right now I'm beginning to believe that the dangerous ones are the fanatics against it. If they wanted to stop gays from getting rights then they should probably stop the hate crimes. Its giving homosexuality more pity than anything else.
Thanks for your passionate response. There is a great term in marketing FWMTS---forgot what made them succesful. This country was founded on certain principles ("Principles') ---well, we are getting away from them. And we will not survive as a culture if we move far from the guiding structures of America. You don't have to agree with that --I could care less. But that is reality. If we adopt homosexual agenda (less than 3% of our population) we are doomed. That's strong---but that is where I see we are headed if we continue to let 3%--tell 97% what to think. Its dangerous. And it's just plain foolish. IT IS A DANGER!!!
Those 3% arent telling other people what to think. They just want their own rights like everyone else. Its not adding to a new agenda. Everyone suddenly isn't going to be bi or gay. Its just wanting a freedom of thoughts and having the right to pursue happiness.
Don't be naive. Gay power in politics is a long standing issue. They have strong lobbies and operate by manipulation. They have a specific agenda.
In the end You'll believe whatever you want.....
wrong again...65% of people arnt against gay rights/gay marriage that is more then 3% of the population
What? What are you 'trying' to say?? The homosexual population is difficult to pin point---but it looks like from all research it is less than 3%. So it's a very small segment of our population. With a very large agenda---and no I'm not wrong!
Its not that hard to admit when you're wrong. Just because you think your opinion is so much better than everyone elses doesn't mean it is. And you are right though. In the end I will believe whatever I want. No one, gay or straight, is going to tell me what to believe. Everyone trys to use manipulation to control peoples ideas. Thats why they have political debates. And of course any gay lobbiests have a specific agenda. All they want is their rights of marriage given. After that there isnt anything else they have planned for homosexuality. Its just like the environmentalists or the radicals. But they arent getting nearly as much bad publicity as gay rights. As far as I know there arent any gay cults out there killing straights. But the KKK does how many hate crimes and how many murders? Yet you don't hear much about them do you?
I believe this is a 'core issue'. It is the opposite of what the founding fathers would have written a constitution for. There are 25 MILLION dead because of AIDS. One of my research scientist aquaintance says his research shows him homosexual sex is a leading cause for AIDS. Can you conncect the dots? I guess you can not. You don't have to believe me---you can stay in the dark with your hands over your eyes---it's cool...(I am sure you know much more about reality than a leading research scientist)
But no one came to this country to give homosexual sex legitimacy. The men who put their very lives and fortunes one the line would have been appalled at what is transistioning in this county. 'Shaking the foundations' --- amazing! For what? For the 'false illusion' of freedom. Freedom has never been free---there is a price tag that goes hand in hand with our 'freedom'.
So I take it all the straight people who have aids must've been raped by some gay guy right?
And I never said freedom wasn't free. But who are we to judge who to give freedome to and who not to. In case you don't remember, our founding fathers never gave blacks any rights. Yet we fought a civil war over them. They also never gave women rights, but now they are voting and have just as big of a role as men do. So don't tell me what our founding fathers wouldve been appalled at. Because it wouldve been a lot more than just the homosexuality. And in case you didn't know, there are also homosexuals fighting a war right now. So are they not good enough to fight with all the straight people? Are they not good enough to serve the country in which they live in? If they can fight for us then they deserve some basic rights same as anyone else.
You probably don't know much about this topic. Neither do most people and the media helps to confuse them. but research shows that most cases of aids are derived from two major things in America. 1. Drug IV 2. Homosexual men to men sexual activity. If there is anyone to blame---it is probably--men. That is a slap in our face---but that looks to be the core reason. So I think we as men need to do what is the right thing! At least that is how it appears to me. By the way my son got out Iraq in 2007.
I think we are losing our way---and someone needs to be able to articulate---something is wrong---not every 'wrong' decision that we make ---is right. There is a distinct difference between something that destroy---instead of something that builds. Aids is the 3rd largest plague in history.
Have a great life....
We need to start a new conversation. So scroll down to the bottom. I'm not having fun reading columns.
Bigots also destroy culture
Wow. It is hard to believe that such ignorance still exists. I feel sorry for your kind. Please do yourself a favor and pick up a book and educate yourself. Learn that there's more to life than hatred.
Marriage no way, But some sort of legal rights should be given for any comited loving relationship.
_referring to U.S policy only_
We are built on the idea of Life Liberty and the purrsuite of happiness(john lock), those ideas give you the right right live were u want and how u want and drive the kind of car u please and live a free life as long as you arn't violating the rights of others.
Why should those rights stop when they no long serve you, and who gave you that authority and why don't the gays have it. Just like you the gays should have the right to pursuit happiness that includes gay marriage...
Un-Christian or not makes no difference because there is a wonderful thing in the U.S called separation of church and state
responding to marketingpro It happens all the time and more then just gays want gay marriage
Now then, marketingpro. Maybe homosexuality started aids, but how do you explain how so many women have it? I'm sure there arent that many bisexual guys who are married and have aids. Or bisexual guys who go out and screw a bunch of girls and guys. The possibility of that is way too slim. And you can say whatever you'd like about research, but I somehow doubt that you'd know more about this than anyone else. And last time I checked they haven't sent out any surveys to homes asking about their sexuality. So estimating probably doesn't help much. And I'm happy for your son. Good for him. But I don't think he should be fighting unless he believes in freedom and rights for anyone and everyone who lives in the U.S.