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No--but then, that IS a predominately white attribution--like scalping, which was, I believe, intitiated by the French during the French and Indian Wars. We also don't say "How?" unless we want to know, well, how.
I reckon you suspect I was raised when every other show was a western, in black & white, and ... true confession time, from the safety of our row house in Brooklyn I was absolutely positive the "Wild West" started immediately on the Jersey side of the Hudson River and wandering too far into the unknown wilderness probably meant certain death. (I was probably six or seven at the time.)
[1 point]2 years ago by ChipmonkReplyEdited 2 years ago by Chipmonk
Don't you know that tobacco is addictive and causes heart disease and cancer?
Someone once asked me what Sho-Ko-Wa (name of the casino in Hopland, CA) meant. Before I could respond, the bartender replied, "White man\d sure is stupid." I laughed so hard I snorted bourbon out my nose.
[1 point]2 years ago by dauguyReplyEdited 2 years ago by dauguy
The Gods of the desert around Egypt and modern day Israel have many similarities. Many scholars say that Horus is Jesus for example.
There are many variations of Gods and Goddesses...the similarities usually meet within the context of creation and that sort of thing. But, there are no real similarities between the Christian God and some of the Far Eastern belief systems. Western religions tend to be variations of the same thing. Jews , Muslims, and Christians all worship the same God. But, they have different ideas about the details.
Other way around. Horus came a long time before Jesus was even thought about. I think about 3,000 years before. There are many similarities in the two.
[1 point]2 years ago by HauliReplyEdited 2 years ago by Hauli
Christianity have stolen lots of its ideas from the pagan and other religions, god who impregnates a mortal woman? Zeus! Attis died and ressurected 23-25 march, straaangly Jesus died and ressurectetd the exact same days.
In Attis, a bull was slaughtered while on a perforated platform. The animal's blood flowed down over an initiate who stood in a pit under the platform. The believer was then considered to have been "born again." Poor people could only afford a sheep, and so were literally washed in the blood of the lamb. This practice was interpreted symbolically by Christians.
So, does this mean if every believer has a different set of tenets yet they are all in respect of the same God, when they die is their God going to hold them to the specific tenets of their particular religion, or is God going to "break the news" [he/she/or it] is the same to the Hebrews as the Muslims as the Catholics as the Hindus, etc., and it really isn't fair to be stricter with one group of believers than with another?
Or, is it more possible when we die, we discover all rules go out the window because any infinitely intelligent supernatural deity is likely to realize that all human behavior is mostly predicated upon genetic ancestry, socioenvironmental influences, and biological instinct, while their good fortune or ill fortune to be raised among believers or heathens (none of which they have any control over at birth) and such luck (or maybe it is a manifestation of the chaos theory) is the primary deciding factor that predestines humans to a fate of an eternity in either heaven or hell?
It seems to me that an infinitely intelligent God would not subject man to a set of tenets that, allegedly "inspired men/women of God" created and handed down via, oral and written means, whilst unaware that the social architecture of their group was probably more of a deciding factor in the development of the specific religious doctrines they believed in than the wishes of the one God of all creation.
What is your thought on my conjectures and how do my ideas sync with your idea that God is whom or whatever the believer whats it to be?
[1 point]2 years ago by ChipmonkReplyEdited 2 years ago by Chipmonk
I believe that God is whatever a person's own mind wants it to be. Religion has brought in the "saleable" version of God. Therefore most followers do just that. Follow. People are not born believing. It is nutured. This is why most religions have a geographical nature to them. Before any long distance communication, there was very little crossed faith. Christianity came to natives in our part of the world with the Europeans. They had existed for eons with the religion of their own elder's choosing and were successful.
If God is whatever you want God to be, are God's "rules" whatever you believe they are, and are God's punishments and rewards whatever you believe they are, and if you believe there is no "balancing of the scales of justice" when you die does that mean that, indeed, there is no such balancing?
What I am trying to figure out is whether there is a Judgment Day if you were never taught to believe there is going to be a Judgment Day?
I believe there is no judgment day at death. Judgment day is everyday. Our punishments and rewards are the result of our own actions. If our actions are of a positive nature to the universe, the universe will bring positive returns. If our actions are negative, then so will our returns be.
"Jehovah" translated from Hebrew means "God of the Desert." The God of the Israelites because, well, I guess because they live in the desert. Learned that from a Lakota friend - researched it, found out it was true. Surprised me.
[1 point]2 years ago by sillynillyReplyEdited 2 years ago by sillynilly
Question (and I'm genuinely curious about what you think; I'm not being sarcastic): How come modern society is so concerned with objectivity when it comes to science, mathematics, etc., but when it comes to religion, you can just believe whatever you want, and that makes it true?
If there is a god out there, don't you think that he/she/it would be a real, objective being?
Chile
My Sikh friend looks at me and says, "Why you Americans get so upset over God? God is one." A sane attitude, I must say.
But since no god exists, they are the same, IMO.
No happy hunting grounds? :-)
No--but then, that IS a predominately white attribution--like scalping, which was, I believe, intitiated by the French during the French and Indian Wars. We also don't say "How?" unless we want to know, well, how.
No smoke'um peace pipe, either?
I reckon you suspect I was raised when every other show was a western, in black & white, and ... true confession time, from the safety of our row house in Brooklyn I was absolutely positive the "Wild West" started immediately on the Jersey side of the Hudson River and wandering too far into the unknown wilderness probably meant certain death. (I was probably six or seven at the time.)
Don't you know that tobacco is addictive and causes heart disease and cancer?
Someone once asked me what Sho-Ko-Wa (name of the casino in Hopland, CA) meant. Before I could respond, the bartender replied, "White man\d sure is stupid." I laughed so hard I snorted bourbon out my nose.
I should think that God is whom or whatever the believer wants it to be.
The Gods of the desert around Egypt and modern day Israel have many similarities. Many scholars say that Horus is Jesus for example.
There are many variations of Gods and Goddesses...the similarities usually meet within the context of creation and that sort of thing. But, there are no real similarities between the Christian God and some of the Far Eastern belief systems. Western religions tend to be variations of the same thing. Jews , Muslims, and Christians all worship the same God. But, they have different ideas about the details.
Other way around. Horus came a long time before Jesus was even thought about. I think about 3,000 years before. There are many similarities in the two.
Christianity have stolen lots of its ideas from the pagan and other religions, god who impregnates a mortal woman? Zeus! Attis died and ressurected 23-25 march, straaangly Jesus died and ressurectetd the exact same days.
In Attis, a bull was slaughtered while on a perforated platform. The animal's blood flowed down over an initiate who stood in a pit under the platform. The believer was then considered to have been "born again." Poor people could only afford a sheep, and so were literally washed in the blood of the lamb. This practice was interpreted symbolically by Christians.
They even stole the christmast tree.. :(
So, does this mean if every believer has a different set of tenets yet they are all in respect of the same God, when they die is their God going to hold them to the specific tenets of their particular religion, or is God going to "break the news" [he/she/or it] is the same to the Hebrews as the Muslims as the Catholics as the Hindus, etc., and it really isn't fair to be stricter with one group of believers than with another?
Or, is it more possible when we die, we discover all rules go out the window because any infinitely intelligent supernatural deity is likely to realize that all human behavior is mostly predicated upon genetic ancestry, socioenvironmental influences, and biological instinct, while their good fortune or ill fortune to be raised among believers or heathens (none of which they have any control over at birth) and such luck (or maybe it is a manifestation of the chaos theory) is the primary deciding factor that predestines humans to a fate of an eternity in either heaven or hell?
It seems to me that an infinitely intelligent God would not subject man to a set of tenets that, allegedly "inspired men/women of God" created and handed down via, oral and written means, whilst unaware that the social architecture of their group was probably more of a deciding factor in the development of the specific religious doctrines they believed in than the wishes of the one God of all creation.
What is your thought on my conjectures and how do my ideas sync with your idea that God is whom or whatever the believer whats it to be?
I believe that God is whatever a person's own mind wants it to be. Religion has brought in the "saleable" version of God. Therefore most followers do just that. Follow. People are not born believing. It is nutured. This is why most religions have a geographical nature to them. Before any long distance communication, there was very little crossed faith. Christianity came to natives in our part of the world with the Europeans. They had existed for eons with the religion of their own elder's choosing and were successful.
If God is whatever you want God to be, are God's "rules" whatever you believe they are, and are God's punishments and rewards whatever you believe they are, and if you believe there is no "balancing of the scales of justice" when you die does that mean that, indeed, there is no such balancing?
What I am trying to figure out is whether there is a Judgment Day if you were never taught to believe there is going to be a Judgment Day?
I believe there is no judgment day at death. Judgment day is everyday. Our punishments and rewards are the result of our own actions. If our actions are of a positive nature to the universe, the universe will bring positive returns. If our actions are negative, then so will our returns be.
Just my opinion.
"Jehovah" translated from Hebrew means "God of the Desert." The God of the Israelites because, well, I guess because they live in the desert. Learned that from a Lakota friend - researched it, found out it was true. Surprised me.
Worry not for they are all storybook characters.
Question (and I'm genuinely curious about what you think; I'm not being sarcastic): How come modern society is so concerned with objectivity when it comes to science, mathematics, etc., but when it comes to religion, you can just believe whatever you want, and that makes it true?
If there is a god out there, don't you think that he/she/it would be a real, objective being?
I'm curious to hear your thoughts.