Another nice thing about having a black USA president, people from all walks of life will be able to aspire to be President.
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While I think Obama being the candidate is a big thing, you make it sound as though he came up from the Ghetto to get where he is. He attended a prestigious private school in Hawaii, and then attended an Ivy League university. He didn't exactly have to struggle with the kinds of things people from the Ghetto have to struggle with.
That's the beauty of a poll. You can see from the answers whether people are reading the question the way you hoped it would be read. In this case they are reading it exactly as I hoped they would. The defense rests. :-)
The question implies that Obama becoming the candidate should inspire the idea that anyone can do it. Which is simply not true. Obama's candidacy in every aspect, except his race, is not that unusual as to inspire the idea that anyone could do it. No one would be shocked by the Harvard lawyer white guy being nominated.
That doesn't mean that they should be though. When reading statements like this question, I believe that it implies that Barack Obama overcame a lot of adversity in his life on his way to the nomination. Which is just not true. The question is accurate, but the implication is not.
Even people from the ghetto can make it if they try. Now they can see color is not the problem. The problem is education, ambition, and determination. Obama is proof to all that color is no longer an obstacle. If they acquire an education and have ambition and determination they can make it too. People from all walks of life can make it if they try. Wasn't this thought a hook in a rock song by Sly & The Family Stone? You cannot convince me Sly was only addressing smart university educated human beings from all walks of life. I think he was trying to convey the sentiment that people from all walks of life can make it if they try. Perhaps they didn't have a suitable role model, ...until now.
Hell, Ang n Andy, in Ohio or Florida he still might not be allowed to vote! And he's running for President!
I think it is damned near a miracle. I was in the South during segregation, and I remember how nearly violent people were when the Civil Rights Act passed.
She is referring to the GOP's hijacking of the voting machines in those states. One of the tactics they used was to purge poor blacks from the voter lists...poor blacks traditionally being democratic.
You must have a very odd political system to no feel any outrage when a member of your population was denied voting rights due to political dirty tricks. I don't particularly care if the person who is being denied rights is male, female, black, white, yellow, brown or other, or for that matter, republican or democratic. They are guarenteed those rights as citizens of the US under my constitution, and I will fight on their behalf.
The Bush machine stole the election in 2000 in Florida in part by not allowing registered black voters to vote, and in Ohio in 2004 by the same stratagem executed differently.
"being black and being allowed to get where he is despite living through the same era which prevented his race basic human"
Obama was not effected directly by any of this. He was born after the majority of the Civil Rights issues were worked out. He didn't have to deal with Segregation, or discrimination. His grandparents put him in the best Private School in Hawaii, and through hard word he got where he was. Don't make it sound like he overcame huge adversity, and faced discrimination at every step, because he did not.
Maybe not, but I can guarantee that he had to work a helluvalot harder than George W. did to get where he is, and have a MUCH higher success rate to boot.
Oddly enough, I don't think of Obama as a black. I think of him as a socialist Democrat lawyer, with a great education, and a political machine that beat the Clintons at their own game. Whatever his color, he is a socialist Democrat. Don't get my vote.
Agreed. You said "another nice thing...". I'm curious about what else is on your list.
Another? Okay, it will be further proof of Abe Lincoln's contention, "all men are created equal." And if Hillary is VP, then, WoW, women too!!! :-')
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyAnd they haven't tried since. Go figure.
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[2 points] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyYep, for the USA it is. :-)
Gee, maybe someday a Native American could be the Chief Executive of the land his or her forebears have lived in for millenia...
While I think Obama being the candidate is a big thing, you make it sound as though he came up from the Ghetto to get where he is. He attended a prestigious private school in Hawaii, and then attended an Ivy League university. He didn't exactly have to struggle with the kinds of things people from the Ghetto have to struggle with.
That's the beauty of a poll. You can see from the answers whether people are reading the question the way you hoped it would be read. In this case they are reading it exactly as I hoped they would. The defense rests. :-)
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[2 points] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyThe question implies that Obama becoming the candidate should inspire the idea that anyone can do it. Which is simply not true. Obama's candidacy in every aspect, except his race, is not that unusual as to inspire the idea that anyone could do it. No one would be shocked by the Harvard lawyer white guy being nominated.
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[2 points] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyThe phrase "All walks of life" implies financial and social status, not race. I don't disagree with it being noteworthy or historic.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyThat doesn't mean that they should be though. When reading statements like this question, I believe that it implies that Barack Obama overcame a lot of adversity in his life on his way to the nomination. Which is just not true. The question is accurate, but the implication is not.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyEven people from the ghetto can make it if they try. Now they can see color is not the problem. The problem is education, ambition, and determination. Obama is proof to all that color is no longer an obstacle. If they acquire an education and have ambition and determination they can make it too. People from all walks of life can make it if they try. Wasn't this thought a hook in a rock song by Sly & The Family Stone? You cannot convince me Sly was only addressing smart university educated human beings from all walks of life. I think he was trying to convey the sentiment that people from all walks of life can make it if they try. Perhaps they didn't have a suitable role model, ...until now.
Check the lyrics:
http://www.slyandthefamilystone.net/songprofile.asp?songid=8&albumid=20
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyHell, Ang n Andy, in Ohio or Florida he still might not be allowed to vote! And he's running for President!
I think it is damned near a miracle. I was in the South during segregation, and I remember how nearly violent people were when the Civil Rights Act passed.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyShe is referring to the GOP's hijacking of the voting machines in those states. One of the tactics they used was to purge poor blacks from the voter lists...poor blacks traditionally being democratic.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyOk,..."black people from economically underdeveloped areas". Is my meaning clearer to you now?
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyYou must have a very odd political system to no feel any outrage when a member of your population was denied voting rights due to political dirty tricks. I don't particularly care if the person who is being denied rights is male, female, black, white, yellow, brown or other, or for that matter, republican or democratic. They are guarenteed those rights as citizens of the US under my constitution, and I will fight on their behalf.
Why would you not?
The Bush machine stole the election in 2000 in Florida in part by not allowing registered black voters to vote, and in Ohio in 2004 by the same stratagem executed differently.
"being black and being allowed to get where he is despite living through the same era which prevented his race basic human"
Obama was not effected directly by any of this. He was born after the majority of the Civil Rights issues were worked out. He didn't have to deal with Segregation, or discrimination. His grandparents put him in the best Private School in Hawaii, and through hard word he got where he was. Don't make it sound like he overcame huge adversity, and faced discrimination at every step, because he did not.
Maybe not, but I can guarantee that he had to work a helluvalot harder than George W. did to get where he is, and have a MUCH higher success rate to boot.
I won't disagree with Bush having an easier route.
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[1 point] 4 years ago by deleted user ReplyOddly enough, I don't think of Obama as a black. I think of him as a socialist Democrat lawyer, with a great education, and a political machine that beat the Clintons at their own game. Whatever his color, he is a socialist Democrat. Don't get my vote.
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