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America has more prisoners than any other country in the world because
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Asked 3 years ago
by clannagael  United States |
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Why not a 'The judicial system IS effective' option. If the courts and police were really inefficient the numbers in jail would drop.
The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8801
I guess our law system is actually working then, i feel really good about that....
It must be http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes
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[1 point] 3 years ago by deleted user Replyhttp://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Prison_System/US_MostPrisonersWorld.html
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We have the most advanced, highly trained, well funded, police force that, in a discussion I said this same thing before, can "actually catch a predictor". As well in this previous discussion on this topic I referenced to reference that depicts how the U.S. has the same average per-capita crime rate as another industrial nation. And i told this Canadian resident that saw these stats as a horrid thing, don't want to mention who, that he should probably take his argument in another direction and see why his nation is not doing enough to protect him.
Funny though, Canada has a lower crime rate (75.4921 per 1,000 people) the the USA (80.0645 per 1,000 people)
Yet Canada has 116 per 100,000 people in jail, while the USA has 715 per 100,000 people in jail. Maybe the USA is locking up the innocent people instead of the guilty or are there just more criminals in the USA?
Or maybe Canada can't "catch a predictor".... and lol, locking up innocent people.... sweetie, "this is America", that all i have to say.... "innocent until proven guilty".... heard of it?, yeah, we invented that....
The crime rate is higher in the USA then in Canada. There are 6 times the number of people in jail in the USA then in Canada and if no innocent people are behind bars then Americans must be a lot more criminal then Canadians. Keep up the good work America.
The U.S. has a similar rate as Canada, just a tad higher. And btw, there is difference between actual crimes committed and actual people arrested... What sounds better? 76 crimes committed but only 20 criminals captured, or 80 crimes but 60 captured.... you tell me.... i think a criminal system that actually works sounds fine to me...
When the criminals are in jail, they can not commit crimes, so I have to wonder who is.....
Secondly if there is no reduction in the number of crimes committed, I would have to guess higher chances of getting caught does not appear to be a deterrence to commit crime.
For what it is worth, I want the crime rate and (if possible) the number of people in prison reduced.
You logic about "criminals are in jail, they can not commit crimes" is flawed. Hello, people grow up... that lil 3-year-old neighbor can be a killer 15 years from now.
I don't follow, you put toddlers in jail?
people grow up.... new criminals are being made everyday.... there is no limited supply....
Have you ever considered why you are not a criminal?
With regard to the justice system option, has anyone noted how many innocent people are being freed recently by DNA evidence after spending 20+ years for wrongful convictions?
That's not effective.
One of the biggest reasons that the USA has more incarcerations per capita than the rest of the world is because of overly strict drug laws. In the US, the war on drugs does not include as much education about substance abuse as in other nations. The US would rather lock 'em up and hope they learn. One of the big flaws in the whole lock 'em up philosophy is that there's more drugs in jail than on the street. One cigarette costs more than a joint in Federal Prisons. (There's no smoking allowed in Fed. Jails)
The correctional system often fails to correct. If they actually started working on real correction it seems fewer people would return to prison after they served their time.
Sadly 'real correction' doesn't seem to work in Sweden or anywhere else I know about. Reconviction rates are high whatever 'correction' methods are tried.
How high are they?
2 Sources for recidivism rates in the U.S.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recidivism
The United States Department of Justice tracked the rearrest, re-conviction, and re-incarceration of former inmates for 3 years after their release from prisons in 15 States in 1994.[1] Key findings include:
Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).
Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide.
The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release.
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The U.S. department of Justice puts the recidivism rate at over 67% within 3 years of release:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/reentry/recidivism.htm
http://dsc.discovery.com/video/index.html?playerId=203711706&categoryId=226602802&lineupId=1213891033&titleId=1213938933